Oil and Gas for Real Estate Investors

Energy is the key input for all economic activity. And as populations and economies grow worldwide, there’s an increasing demand for energy.

So listen in as we chat with an experienced oil man and discuss the nitty-gritty of investing in oil and gas for profits and tax breaks.

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, you’ll hear from:

  • Your well-oiled host, Robert Helms
  • His slightly creaky co-host, Russell Gray
  • Oil and gas businessman, Bob Burr

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How we got into oil and gas

We’re often asked how we transitioned from real estate to other real assets.

We started studying economics after the ’08 financial crisis. We were looking to see what we could have done … to better survive the crash.

We realized we needed to be more careful about structuring our portfolios so they weren’t vulnerable to the ups and downs of Wall Street.

We also realized the dollar, gold, and oil were all interconnected.

And, we looked at the tax benefits, and realized the tax path leads to oil.

Our guest today is basically the Godfather of Gas and Oil. Bob Burr started out in the gas and oil industry working on rigs as a young man in Louisiana.

“It was my life’s mission to find out the other end of the business,” Bob says.

Well, he’s made it … Bob now has several cumulative decades on the money-making side of the oil and gas industry.

And he’s still at it … technological innovations and new oil discoveries have made the U.S. one of the top places in the world for oil extraction.

Bob’s decades of experience have led him through ups and downs, mistakes and discoveries, and he has come out wiser on the other end. He met us on the Summit at Sea™ … and now he’s here to share his knowledge with YOU.

The tax benefits of oil investing

So … why oil and gas?

“The tax shelter is just tremendous,” Bob says. Oil and gas investing is the only business today where you can put in a dollar and write off 70 to 80 percent of that, whether you win, lose, or come to a draw.

There are risks inherent to investing in the industry, but the federal government makes it much more approachable by subsidizing heavy tax breaks.

“Every time you drill a well, you’re gambling,” Bob says. But since oil drives the economy, Uncle Sam is willing to place some bets.

Bob does a lot of due diligence before he even starts digging to make sure a potential well has a high chance to be profitable for him and his partners.

First, he explores the land and picks out a bunch of prospective sites.

Then, he sends those prospects to a third-party geological team and says, “Kill it.” Really. If the geological team comes back and says no go, Bob moves on.

After the geological team gives the A-OK, Bob does yet another evaluation. His sons do a due diligence inspection to examine specific site issues.

“We’ll have some bad ones regardless, but I’m doing everything to avoid that,”  Bob says.

Oil and gas exploration is a numbers game, but Bob is shaving the odds in his favor. He’s eliminating 90 percent of the bad options … before the drilling starts.

Oil and gas investing is an industry that requires high responsivity to partners.

Because it is a high-risk industry, Bob makes sure he is being attentive to his investment partners’ needs.

“We need to shut up and listen and let them present the facts,” Bob says. If there’s ever a point where he disagrees, he consults with specialists and experts first.

Bob has been in the business a long time. “I would be lying if I never did anything wrong,” he says. “I had to climb the mountain and fall back down, climb the mountain and fall back down.”

But now, “You can’t play any tricks on me,” he declares.

Who gets a cut?

How does oil and gas investing work for everyone involved?

First, there are the land owners. In usual oil and gas terms, the land owner owns the surface and minerals. The oil extractor … that’s Bob … gives the owner a bonus for each acre used, plus royalties … a percentage of the total proceeds.

“You have to look at the economics,” he says, in reference to the royalty rate.

If an oil person is pulling in millions of dollars, the reserve rate … what they take home to investors and their own business … will be less, perhaps closer to 50 percent. For a smaller pull, it’ll probably be closer to 80 percent.

“You have to play every hand differently,” Bob says. There are a lot of variables that affect each situation.

Now, what about the investors?

Becoming a partner to Bob or another oil person requires taking on a lot of risk. But regardless of the outcome, investors still get tax benefits.

Bob says he does turn-key deals on each well, and he takes on the responsibility of figuring out completion costs and risk.

If he runs into problems, he doesn’t go back to his investors to ask for more money, he says … but if there is a chance to drill deeper and get much higher profits, he will sometimes give investors an opportunity to put more money in and play the game.

As for the profits? “I’ve never had one problem having a market for oil at a premium price,” he says.

Bob recently got about $70/barrel for West Texas crude, but he says he can make money at as low as $25/barrel … so there’s a lot of flexibility. Twenty-five is still a good, solid return, he says.

The oil industry is all about developing relationships … after all, we only got to know Bob through the great relationships we form each year at the Summit at Sea™.

“I’m a team with my partners, and I’m the captain of the team,” Bob says. “And I want to score.”

Think you want to learn more about oil and gas investing? You can start your research with Bob’s custom report. And of course, you can meet Bob and other experienced investors at our annual Summit at Sea™!


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Opportunity Zones – Reduce Taxes by Investing in Main Street

It’s easy to figure out where tax incentives lie in wait. Just study the tax code.

The latest version of the tax code introduces a new tax shelter … opportunity zones. But … what are opportunity zones?

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, we dive into what we know about opportunity zones … including three MAJOR benefits.

You’ll hear from:

  • Your opportunistic host, Robert Helms
  • His inopportune co-host, Russell Gray

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Opportunity zones: The basics

There’s a way to pay no tax on certain investments AND heal struggling communities. We’re talking about opportunity zones.

These new geographic tax shelters are encoded in the version of the tax code passed in 2017 … but they’re not totally finalized yet.

That doesn’t mean they’re not important … savvy investors will be absorbing all the info they can BEFORE opportunity zones go into action.

The idea of opportunity zones is to offer a tax-favored investment vehicle for people who already have capital gains in other investments.

Opportunity zones will be located in low-income communities ripe for revitalization … and will be located in every state in the U.S.

The fundamental purpose of opportunity zones is to encourage long-term investments in struggling communities.

Congress has established an incentive framework that is flexible and unique. This is essentially a new class of investment.

These opportunity zones complement existing community development plans. In essence, the project is treating the U.S. like a giant rehab project.

You’ll basically be moving yourself into a pre-identified path of progress. There hasn’t been a ton of incentive for investors to come into these run-down, lower income areas. But NOW there is.

The benefits of opportunity zones

Like we said earlier, the idea of opportunity zones is set, but the legislation is not in action yet. The appropriate documentation and legislation will be in place by the end of 2018.

So NOW is your time to prepare for the future.

There are definite differences between this opportunity and other investments. Generally, you’re required to pay tax when you liquidate capital gains.

But investing in opportunity zones provides three unique tax benefits. Before we get into those, we do want to clarify … this investment is only available for investors who already have capital gains from previous investors.

But not to worry … if you’re a newer investor who doesn’t have any capital gains yet, there are ways to get in on the action. We’ll get into those in the next section.

Now, the three tax benefits …

  1. You can defer your original capital gains tax for up to 10 years. As you probably know, it’s always better to defer taxes than to pay now.
  2. You also get a 10 to 15 percent discount on your original capital gains tax.
  3. AND …when appreciated capital gains are put into an opportunity zone investment, the gains you make from that investment are completely tax free.

There is a timeline. You have to sell the appreciated assets and invest the capital gains into one or more opportunity zone investments within 180 days.

But we want to emphasize … your capital gains from properties in opportunity zone areas will be completely TAX FREE.

No capital gains? How to invest in opportunity zones

The government has a goal here … they want to bring a ton of investment capital to certain areas and swing them around.

In that vein, there is a certain requirement you have to follow to invest in opportunity zones … there is NO tax incentive if you own property in an opportunity zone under your own name.

You have to invest in opportunity zones through opportunity funds.

If you don’t have appreciated assets, you may be wondering how you can start an opportunity fund and get in on this great opportunity.

There are a few options …

  1. Invest in an area near an opportunity zone. You’ll be boosted up by the wave of capital increasing asset values all around you.
  2. Invest as a syndicator. Set up an opportunity fund … and get other investors to contribute their capital gains.

This last point is something to seriously consider … especially when you start thinking about the stock market.

The stock market is hot, but it’s showing signs of faltering. People want to take their capital gains out … but they don’t want to pay taxes.

A fantastic solution? Opportunity funds.

All about opportunity funds

What does it take to put together an opportunity fund?

Opportunity funds do not have investment limitations.

They must be organized as a corporation or a partnership.

They do not require official IRS approval … the fund manager can self-certify the fund simply by submitting a form to the IRS.

The process is designed for speed. It cuts out bureaucracy … and brings locally driven change to areas that need it.

But it also requires investors to make REAL change … for example, one requirement we expect to see is that investors put as much into rehab and construction as they spent to acquire the property.

Opportunity zones mean sending money to the bottom of the market … and making the subsequent changes LAST for the long term.

For a map of tagged and categorized opportunity zones, plus more information, simply send us an email at opportunityzones [at] realestateguysradio [dot] com.

And don’t think this is the last you’ll hear about opportunity zones … we expect this to be a BIG wave in the real estate investing sea, and we’ll be providing more information to our listeners as this new opportunity develops.


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Halloween Horror Stories – 2018 Edition

Welcome to our annual edition of Halloween Horror Stories … real world accounts of real estate deals gone horribly wrong.

We’re honored our guests chose to share their horror stories with us. They also discuss what they discovered in the process … so YOU can learn what NOT to do.

In this Spooktacular episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, you’ll hear from:

  • Your spooky host, Robert Helms
  • His spooked co-host, Russell Gray
  • Investors Sep Bekam
  • Todd Sulzinger
  • Michael Manthei
  • Brad and Emily Niebuhr
  • Silvana Shull
  • Lane Kawaoka
  • David Kafka
  • and Ryan Gibson

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The shot heard ‘round the neighborhood

Our first story comes from investor Sep Bekam. Sep bought a 36-house parcel and started making repairs and raising rents to market price.

But this made one particular tenant less than happy.

You see, the existing tenant was occupying two houses … one for personal use and one for their daycare business … and the rent raises meant they had to downsize.

But that’s life. Sep put a Section 8 tenant into the newly unoccupied property and thought that was that.

Six months later, he found out there had been a drive-by shooting. Turns out the Section 8 tenant had a teen involved in gang and drug activities … not the kind of thing you can find out on a background check.

The Section 8 tenant moved out shortly afterward, and Sep started the process of putting a third tenant in the house. But the old tenant … the daycare owner … still wasn’t happy. They started interfering with the leasing agents, trying to scare off prospective renters.

Still, Sep found a new tenant and everything seemed okay again … until about a month later, when the tenant heard loud shots.

Turns out the disgruntled neighbor had fired a paintball gun at the new tenant’s house … then told them about the previous drive-by shooting.

The solution … Sep made an agreement with the new tenants to put in a state-of-the-art security system so they would feel safe.

The takeaways … Crime sometimes happens, no matter how many safeguards you have in place. Sep says it’s important to mitigate the problem WHEN it happens so it’s not associated with the neighborhood.

And keep in mind, Sep has a portfolio of over 100 houses. He reminds investors to not get discouraged … these kinds of horror stories are the exception, not the rule.

The bankrupt builder

Todd Sulzinger started investing his self-directed IRA funds in 2011.

He found a developer building fourplexes who was looking for hard-money loans and decided to sign on.

A few months later, one of the developer’s major suppliers went bankrupt. And then … the developer went bankrupt too.

Because Todd was only in on a portion of the fourplex, he couldn’t foreclose.

The solution … Todd did his best to fight for the money held in the construction management company. Unfortunately, he never recovered all of his money, and what he did get back didn’t return until years later.

The takeaways … “Don’t do a hard-money loan on a fourplex,” Todd says. Know exactly where your money is going BEFORE you make a loan, and understand what will happen in a worst-case scenario.

Also, make sure you can foreclose on a property. And evaluate the risks of any loan or investments. If you’re unsure … ask questions. The vetting process should take time if you’re doing it right.

The mysterious doorman

Michael Manthei’s troubles didn’t start when he bought a 10-unit building in a rougher neighborhood … they started when he replaced one tenant with an older gentleman who seemed like a nice guy.

Soon after the tenant moved in, water started leaking from the apartment into the commercial space downstairs.

Then, there was a death in the apartment.

Turns out, the new tenant had been charging homeless people $10 to shower at his place. He let one woman stay overnight … and she overdosed and died. The man was even running a prostitution operation from the apartment.

The solution … “We kindly asked him to leave, and he complied,” Michael says. That wasn’t the end … the apartment was in bad shape and had to be gutted and cleaned.

The takeaways … Don’t trust your intuition more than the process.

Michael now makes sure new tenants complete an application, do a full criminal and eviction background check, and supply references and employment history before he will even consider them.

He considers that process an investment … on getting quality, long-term tenants.

The curious sucking sound

Brad and Emily Niebuhr do a lot of mixed-use deals. But in one property they bought a few years ago, things went terribly wrong.

First, there was the love triangle. One tenant had her boyfriend added to the lease … but a few months later, the boyfriend moved into the apartment of a DIFFERENT tenant.

But that’s not the horror story.

People started to hear lots of noise and banging … including odd sucking sounds … coming from the second tenant’s apartment. Then, water started to leak from the apartment into the commercial space below.

Turns out, the tenant and her new boyfriend had jaunted off to Alaska, but not before illegally subletting the apartment.

The subletter had an issue with the bathtub drain … but since he didn’t want anyone to know he was there, he was using a Shop Vac to drain water from the bathtub, sometimes as many as 13 times a day.

Even worse … the new subletter was allegedly a drug dealer who brought an unverified service dog onto the property.

The solution … Emily and Brad did a property inspection and gave the subletter notice, and he quickly moved out. They also fixed the drain issue.

The takeaways … If you couldn’t tell, Brad and Emily were managing the property without the help of a property management team. They told us that now, they wouldn’t go without one.

They also realized that investments are about more than the numbers. Even though the mixed-used property had amazing cap rates and returns, it was in a rural area, and they couldn’t find a property manager.

Although they finally have property management now, it took a lot of searching. “There’s a learning curve to the due diligence process,” the couple says.

When disaster strikes

In 2008, Silvana Shull had a successful business in Japan … a large retail furniture and interior design operation. She bought and designed a custom showroom because the numbers made sense.

But right after, the economy started to shift.

She was able to manage for about three years … until 2011 and 2012, when Japan was struck by a series of natural disasters, including tsunamis and earthquakes.

The operation was destroyed.

Silvana had to make a decision … cut her losses and try to rebuild, or close her business entirely and try to recover what she could.

The solution … Silvana sold the building she bought for less than 10 percent of what she originally paid. She shipped all her remaining inventory to Hawaii, where she eventually was able to sell everything … but the entire process took seven years of daily, dedicated effort. And she did it all while taking care of her two small children.

The takeaways … Running an international operation isn’t easy and requires a team. “I didn’t listen to advice and thought I could do anything,” Silvana says.

If she were to do it again, she would listen more and move slower. Although it’s impossible to control natural disasters, Silvana says it probably didn’t make sense to expand in Japan, considering she was living in Hawaii at the time.

The incredible shrinking IRA

Lane Kawaoka is a podcaster, like us. His show is called Simple Passive Cashflow.

He is also an investor who has made a few mistakes.

When he was starting out, Lane wanted to use his self-directed IRA to invest in a passive deal, but he didn’t know many people.

So, when he got a referral, he didn’t do much investigating. Lane invested $43,000 … almost his entire IRA fund … in a deal that looked pretty good on paper.

But then he started networking with other limited partners and heard the operator wasn’t the most scrupulous person. A year later, Lane got a letter that said his deal had gone south.

Lane was left with a property that needed $20,000 worth of repairs in a tertiary market with long selling times.

The solution … Lane wrote off the loss and eventually fire-sold the property. He was left with only $7,000 in his IRA fund.

The takeaways … “Don’t work with someone you don’t know, like, or trust. And don’t lose focus on building relationships with other peer investors,” Lane says.

Trouble in paradise

This story comes from an investor outside of the U.S. … David Kafka. David is located in Belize.

One day, David got a call from an employee. The police needed him to identify a body. Turns out, it was a client of David’s … he had just listed and sold her house.

There were some questions floating around about whether the client had actually wanted to sell, and David had the keys to her house. He was worried he might be a suspect. But he was even more worried about finding the actual killer.

The solution … Eventually, David ended up closing the deal. And he realized he wasn’t a detective and couldn’t solve the murder. He had to extricate himself.

The takeaways … Dot your I’s and cross your T’s, says David. When the unexpected happens, you want to put yourself in the best possible position.

Also, remember that sometimes bad things happen to good people … and that many things are simply out of our control. So, be compassionate and have fortitude, but keep your nose out of things that aren’t in your jurisdiction.

A red-hot deal

Our last horror story comes from investor Ryan Gibson.

Ryan invested in a condo-conversion development opportunity, converting an existing single-family home into condos.

He had great insurance … probably a little too much, he says. But that insurance came in handy when someone broke in and started a fire two months before the condos were set to be finished.

Ryan was on vacation in Hawaii when he got the call, but he had a local contractor on the ground who could help manage the situation.

The solution … Ryan immediately sent an email out to his investors. He also informed his lender, a bank, right away. And he submitted an insurance claim, which luckily covered the damage to the dollar.

The fire extended the entire process by about three months, but in the end, Ryan was able to offer his investors a return over 50 percent.

The takeaways … “If it can go wrong, it probably will,” says Ryan. So always be over-insured. And remember, “Bad news doesn’t get better with age.”

Be transparent and handle problems as quickly as possible … and make sure you have eyes and ears on the ground to help you out when times get tough.

How to handle a horror story

In stressful times, attitude plays a big role. But what really matters is asking the right questions:

  • What happened?
  • Why did it happen?
  • How can I resolve it?
  • What can I learn?

That way, you can turn your horror story into a learning experience that will help you be an even smarter investor.


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The Future of Interest Rates and More with David Stockman

We love talking about real estate. But, real estate is only a part of the sea of our economic landscape. Rising interest rates have a HUGE impact on real estate and the economy in general.

That’s why we are talking to one of our favorite former Wall Street and Washington insiders.

He tells us his take on the future of interest rates and the economy … and shares how YOU can capitalize on changing interest rates to make smart real estate decisions.

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show you’ll hear from:

  • Your swimming host, Robert Helms
  • His sinking co-host, Russell Gray
  • David Stockman, former U.S. Congressman and best-selling author

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The U.S. economy is a fantasyland

David Stockman is an expert not only in economic policy, but also in articulating and explaining complex topics in a way anyone can understand.

David’s political path began in college when he worked for a congressman and learned what it took to be a policymaker. He won an election to congress after the incumbent in his district retired.

Later, he was drafted to be a part of Ronald Reagan’s economic team. President Reagan appointed David as budget director, where he helped launch economic policies.

When it comes to economic policy, there are generally two schools of thought … Keynesian and Austrian.

“Keynesianism says basically that you can’t rely on capitalism to grow; you need the helping hand of the government,” David says. “We say get out of the way! The less government the better.”

And of course, limit borrowing and spending.

The other major factor in economics is interest rates … which directly affect home buyers and investors.

“Rising interest rates have historically told Congress to get its fiscal house in order,” David says. “It elicits a reaction in the country that says, ‘You’re crowding out investment that we need in the private sector.’”

But money printing and distortion of the capital market can cause major crashes like the one we endured in 2008. The subprime disaster SHOULD have been a wake-up call to the country.

In the 94 days after the crash, the Fed increased the balance sheet by 150 percent more than in the previous 94 years.

David says that put us on the path of crazy money printing and low interest rates … and has fueled more speculation.

Now, the Fed is trying to stabilize interest rates and has put the economy in a precarious position.

And there’s an important concept for today’s investors to keep in mind as they evaluate the economy … the recency bias.

“If you’re looking just at what happened yesterday or last year, you might lose track of the fact that we’re in fantasyland, and fantasyland is a dangerous place to be,” David says.

Essentially, the Fed realizes that they went way too far for way too long, and that they won’t be ready for the next big crisis. And the deficit continues to grow out of control.

Which means the next crash could be even bigger.

David says that for investors who are borrowing large sums of money to finance their investments, there’s no more dangerous time than right now.

He calls for prudent underwriting today, and keeping an eye toward the future.

Higher interest rates and lower property values are the types of problems that can erase yields.

“Debt can produce wonderful returns,” David says. “But, if you get caught blindsided, it can be a very dangerous thing to wrestle with.”

Shore up investments before the crash

While many pundits are talking about how robust the economy is, it’s important to listen to the people who are sounding the alarm. So, what can happen?

“If we have another crisis, innocent people will be hurt,” David says. People who lost in the dotcom bust and the housing crisis will have similar and possibly even bigger losses.

This time, the fed will not be in the position to bail out the system. And David says that perhaps in the next crash, the Federal Reserve will emerge as the real culprits of economic instability.

One of the big lessons is to stay educated and understand the fundamentals. You can turn a crisis into an opportunity.

What should a prudent investor be doing now to prepare for the next downturn?

“I think that the idea of cash-flow oriented investment is a sound one,” David says, “but the underwriting going forward will have to be more discriminating and careful than ever before.”

This is especially true for commercial investing. It’s important to ensure that tenants can continue to pay their leases.

Above all, David says that being a careful and prudent investor is a more secure place to be.

For investors who didn’t live through 2008 … or even if you did … you can learn from David’s expertise.

Want to learn more from David and keep up with his advice and takes on the economy? Send an email to Stockman [at] realestateguysradio [dot] com.


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Building Your Network and Credibility by Attracting the Right People

Real estate investing is a social endeavor. The more people you know … and the better those people are … the more likely you are to succeed.

But how do you turn your business relationship dreams into reality?

The secret to building relationships is alignment.

In other words, YOU have to bring value to the table to build strong relationships … and you want to seek out people who can bring value to you, too.

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, we’ll talk with a powerful connector who is an expert at helping folks nurture and build relationships.

You’ll hear from:

  • Your connected host, Robert Helms
  • His cantankerous co-host, Russell Gray
  • Kyle Wilson, promoter and brand builder

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The three ingredients of strong relationships

Kyle Wilson has had the chance to work with a lot of great people throughout his career. Recently, he wrote a book about the lessons he has learned from them.

One of Kyle’s mentors and partners was entrepreneur Jim Rohn, who died in 2009. Jim said, “Success takes time, and the twin killers of success are impatience and greed.”

Today’s society wants instant success, says Kyle … but it takes time to do anything worthwhile, including building your network.

That doesn’t mean every relationship you spend time on will be great. A second lesson Kyle learned comes from Zig Ziglar, who said, “Never do a good deal with a bad guy.” It’ll never work out for the best.

We’ve got the first two ingredients … time and good people. The third ingredient of a successful relationship is value.

You need to BE a good partner before you can HAVE a good partner … and that means bringing value to the table. Solid relationships aren’t usually based on people just being nice to each other … they’re about value.

A good relationship or partnership should be win-win on both sides.

Dream big … and put in the time

Kyle shared another lesson from his book, 52 Lessons, with us. (Pssst … to read the book, simply click here for free instant access. Kyle is publishing the book entirely online, one chapter a week.)

He learned this lesson from Mark Victor Hansen, founder of the well-known Chicken Soup for the Soul book series.

Mark told Kyle, “We’re going to sell 100 million books.” Kyle didn’t believe him.

Today, the Chicken Soup for the Soul franchise has sold more than 600 million books.

Kyle calls the lesson he learned “stretching the rubber band” … Mark forced Kyle to think beyond what he thought was possible.

It’s essential to build relationships with people who can get you outside of your comfort zone and help you dream big.

To turn your dreams to reality, however, requires dedication, a lesson Kyle learned early in his career from success expert Bryan Tracy.

Bryan said, “Success is like getting a plane off the ground.” It takes a ton of fuel and energy to get that plane from the runway to the air … but once you’re at 300,000 feet, you can coast a little.

Kyle applied that wisdom to the beginning of his career. He spent the first two or three years putting in the hours … so he could reap the results later.

Most people spend their whole lives going 80 miles per hour down the runway and never breaking free from gravity. “That’s not efficient,” Kyle says.

Great relationships will propel you upwards

52 Lessons is a compilation of stories from individuals who’ve been through a defining experience and made the changes necessary to bounce them to success.

Kyle can share a similar story … he sold 7 million books as a publisher, then sold all his companies and retired in 2007 to become Mr. Mom. He even signed a non-compete.

Several years later, he wanted to get back in the game … so he used the knowledge he’d amassed to start a new publishing business. His first book was Passionistas, a book about millennial women hustling to make their businesses succeed.

Kyle says he’s able to leverage his experiences and relationships to create more success for himself and others around him. That’s one reason he loves attending our annual Summit at Sea™.

The Summit isn’t just about information, Kyle says … it’s about the people you meet and the relationships you build.

At some point, most investors will want to move from solo investments to syndication with other people. That’s where our Secrets of Successful Syndication seminar comes into play.

Most people attending that event already have half a dozen properties … and almost everyone has something they can offer to other investors.

It’s a way to put yourself in a target-rich environment.

Leverage social media

Kyle says that for the modern entrepreneur, online relationships are important too. “Whatever business you’re in, it’s all about building an audience.”

Whether that’s through a podcast, social media, an email list, events, or a combination, online networking might be your secret sauce to building a network.

Kyle says that for him, “It’s counterproductive to pay someone to do social media … it’s about the pulse.”

But whatever strategy you alight on, you have to be authentic about it. You can delegate the minutiae … but you should be the architect of your connection strategies.

And EVERY strategy you make should begin with the philosophy of bringing value to others.

Align yourself with others

As The Guys, we’ve built a successful brand and a network full of investing rockstars because we work to find common values.

If you’re looking to make connections, DON’T jump into a partnership right away.

Instead, do a deep dive to determine your own personal mission, vision, and values. Then you can determine whether others will help you advance your goals … and whether YOU can help THEM.

Not everyone you meet will offer that kind of win-win relationship.

If you’re looking for help figuring out your mission, vision, and values, come to our Create Your Future goal-setting retreat.

Discover the big picture of who you are as a person … and learn what you want, how (and how not) you can get it, and how to evaluate potential relationships.

Convert your passion … into action. And attract the right people into your life by removing uncertainty about what YOU want.


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Ask The Guys – Finding Great Agents, Vetting Syndications, Starting Small

We’re back … with an all-new episode of Ask The Guys!

In this series, we answer YOUR questions about all things real estate.

Before you click play, please remember that we are not tax advisors or legal professionals. We offer ideas, not advice … please run any investment ideas past a professional before putting them into action.

Now, listen in to The Real Estate Guys™ show! You’ll hear from:

  • Your pondering host, Robert Helms
  • His pesky co-host, Russell Gray
  • Bob Helms, the godfather of real estate

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Syndication, securities, and accreditation

Susan, from New Hope, Pennsylvania, wants to know what real estate investment opportunities are open to non-accredited investors.

The short answer is A LOT. For the long answer, let’s start with a definition.

An accredited investor is someone who has a net worth of over $1 million excluding their primary residence OR someone who has had an annual income of $200,000 for at least two years ($300,000 for married couples).

These requirements allow the SEC to regulate the kinds of investors who get involved in securities investments.

They are a way to verify you’ve reached adequate financial aptitude and won’t run aground by investing in a big deal.

If you’re not at that level yet, that’s perfectly all right!

You have multiple options:

  1. Employ a tenant-in-common ownership to invest in a property as a group. Make sure you structure the deal so it stays within SEC regulations.
  2. Make friends with a syndicator. Deal makers can work with up to 35 non-accredited investors through the 506B exemption.
  3. Work with an accredited partner to complete your first few bigger deals.
  4. Invest in a publicly traded security in real estate.
  5. Use a crowdfunding site to invest limited funds into a larger project.
  6. Make a private loan to other investors.

HOWEVER … keep in mind that the average beginning investor is NOT accredited. Condos, single-family homes, and other smaller properties are ALL available to non-accredited investors.

In fact, the vast majority of real estate investment opportunities are available to non-accredited investors.

The fundamental piece of the equation is education. You have to know WHAT you’re buying and WHO you’re doing business with for every deal before you can move confidently into a deal that risks large amounts of your equity.

Michael, from Richardson, Texas, asks a related question … when does a deal become syndication?

Syndication simply means putting together money from a group of individuals.

Things start to get a little tricky when some of those individuals are passive investors, however … because then you have a security and have to make sure investors are accredited, like we talked about above.

When you’re working with a group of people to do a deal, make sure you hire a real estate or securities attorney to properly document your deal. We DO NOT recommend the do-it-yourself method here.

Repair first … or sell as-is?

Betty, from Littleton, Colorado, is wondering whether her in-laws should fix the broken foundation of their home before selling or sell it as-is.

Bob reminds us that as-is means as disclosed … it’s important to tell a potential buyer EVERYTHING that could be an issue, including any reports you’ve commissioned.

The best solution in this case might be to get a report on the damage to the foundation … and then decide whether to sell or fix.

There’s no automatic best answer here … in a strong market, you can probably get away with as-is, while in a buyer’s market, you may have to do more work.

To figure out the best option, sit down with your real estate professional.

Investing to learn

We got a question from Daniel, in Garden Grove, California. He is wondering how to invest in larger deals as a learning endeavor. He wants to expand beyond single-family investments. Like our first questioner, he is not accredited.

Let’s start with what you need to do to FIND deals as a passive investor.

Passive investors bet on both the jockey and the horse. In other words, you need to know the details of the deal … AND know who you’re doing business with.

That’s why networking events are so important. And the TYPE of events you go to are important too … we bet you’ll find more dedicated, passionate investors at professional development events than at events where syndicators get together to show off their deals.

If you want to learn, put yourself out there, get to know people, and pick out a few niches you find interesting. Then put a smaller amount of money into multiple deals … instead of putting all your eggs in one basket.

And make sure you’re working with a syndicator who is invested in your educational process. You want a syndicator who will let you be a fly on the wall.

Passive investment options for residential assisted living

Bill, in Northbrook, Illinois, asks whether it’s possible to invest passively in residential assisted living or AirBnb investment options.

If you’re interested in residential assisted living, we recommend looking into Gene Guarino. His educational events have taught many investors how to step into the assisted living field … and many of those investors become syndicators willing to work with investors like Bill.

AirBnb, on the other hand, is something we’re not 100 percent sure about yet. There’s some legal resistance and the whole industry can be a bit sketchy.

We just don’t know enough about AirBnb investing to recommend this option … and we haven’t yet found an expert who’s really crushing it in that field. For now, this option is just a wait-and-see niche for us.

Book releases and Belize trips

We answer three quick questions from curious listeners …

Ellie in Seattle wonders where she can find a copy of Bob Helm’s new book, Be The One Percent.

The book is meant to teach realtors about how to serve investors … and become investors themselves.

To get your hands on a copy, listen in to the show for special access.

John, from San Antonio, Texas, wants to know whether we hold a convention in Belize. While we don’t hold a convention … we do conduct Belize discovery trips three to four times a year!

These trips are a great way to get an in-depth perspective on the Belize market … and even if you’re not ultimately interested in offshore investing, you’ll learn a heck of a lot about market analysis.

Holly, from Pingrove, Illinois, wonders whether we have any Belize field trips scheduled in the near future. To check out upcoming field trip dates, check out the event page.

Finding the truth about private lending platforms

We were excited to hear from a former participant in our mentoring program. Domingo, who’s located in San Anselmo, California, wants to know what we think of a particular private lending platform.

He also wants to know what we think about his general economic theory … that there’s a strong possibility the market will come down, and that real estate will continue to be a viable investment option during a crash, even if liquidity dries up.

About the lending platform, we can’t really comment. There are several peer-to-peer lending platforms that specialize in crowdfunding loans, and these can be a great way to diversify loan types.

But lending is lending … so no matter the loan type, you have to understand the basic underwriting … what you get if a foreclosure happens.

Don’t get lost in the weeds. Instead, understand the basics … what are you giving, and what do you get? And if things go wrong, what happens?

As to the economic theory, we think Domingo is on the right track. ALL of our listeners should be thinking about how to position themselves so they can thrive when a downturn happens.

Land brokerage and multi-family investing

Our last question is from Troy, in Millcreek, Washington. Troy is looking to get better as a land acquisition agent … but he also wants to dip his toes into multi-family products.

We haven’t been in the land brokerage business, but we think there are a few things to take into consideration.

First, land is not land is not land.

By that, we mean every land bank could lead to a different outcome … so you need to look at where every piece of land will end up, whether that’s agriculture or retail development.

Second, every specialty brokerage follows the 80/20 rule … 80 percent of real estate is sold by 20 percent of agents. So, be the 20 percent.

That means you need to be really well educated, have outstanding product knowledge, and build excellent relationship.

To succeed, look for the big players in your field and try to get in a room with them. Pick their brains, learn the language, and build your business.

And ask yourself the most important question … who is my customer? Understand the needs of the person you’ll be selling to.

As to multi-family, our friend Brad Sumrock has a wealth of resources. He’s one of several multi-family investors on our Summit at Sea faculty … but he also holds a two-day training three times a year in Dallas, Texas.

It’s an invaluable learning opportunity, and one we can’t recommend enough.

Have a question of your own? Ask us here. Until next time, happy investing!


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Finding Opportunity in Comeback Markets

Job creation is up. Even better news … the jobs being created are blue-collar jobs, many in the reviving manufacturing industry.

This means more wages, more workers … and more folks who can pay rent.

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, we talk to an entrepreneur who has built a real estate business in an off-the-radar market.

The truth is, the hot markets you always hear about … San Francisco, New York, Los Angeles … don’t make sense for investors.

On the other hand, markets with not-so-great reputations might get you the best bang for your buck, depending on where they’re at in the market cycle.

Our conversation today delves into what makes a market make sense … and what it takes to make a profit in sensible markets.

Listen in … you’ll hear from:

  • Your reputable host, Robert Helms
  • His bad-reputation co-host, Russell Gray
  • Bryce Keesee, founder of Great Lakes Capital Solutions

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Riding the market waves

Let’s start with a quick real estate investing lesson.

Many people generalize the entire real estate investment category. They think real estate is overheated … so there’s no opportunity anywhere, for anyone.

That’s just plain wrong.

Real estate is NOT an asset class. It’s NOT a market. It’s an investment category with MANY different markets, each of which is in its own unique place in the market cycle.

But smart investors don’t look at averages. They take the time to do research, look for clues, kick the dirt, and meet people in individual markets.

When you’re looking for great markets, one excellent option is the comeback market.

Markets go through phases …

  1. Growth.
  2. Stabilization.
  3. Deterioration.
  4. Revitalization.

Catching a market as it hits step four is the key to riding an up-wave.

You don’t want to get in before things have started looking up … but you do want to get into markets that are turning upwards before the crowd.

Case study: Cleveland

Our guest Bryce Keesee got into real estate in southern Florida 15 years ago … but he has since switched to a market in the midst of MAJOR revitalization.

The market? His hometown … Cleveland, Ohio.

You might not initially think of Cleveland as a great investment market. That’s part of what makes it so great.

Bryce says the market offers many benefits … good price points for properties and rents, a steady flow of dependable tenants, stable worker incomes, and best of all … high cash flow.

Let’s get into what makes Cleveland so great.

First of all, a revitalized manufacturing industry only adds to the wide variety of blue-collar companies in the city.

Steel manufacturers join other major employers like Lincoln Electric, Progressive Insurance, several Amazon warehouses, and the renowned Cleveland Clinic, just to name a few.

This variety offers stability … and provides blue-collar jobs that keep rent prices steady.

These jobs are one reason Cleveland has a reputation for affordability.

Bryce is a fan of blue-collar workers because they tend to be long-term tenants. Many of these workers don’t plan to buy a home. Purchasing a property is “off the list” of goals for many people.

Dive into the details

We asked Bryce to give us the low-down on his typical rental property.

Bryce says properties are slightly different depending on location.

The east side of Cleveland has been abandoned for many years, although it’s starting to see growth now. So price points are a bit lower.

Bryce says single-family homes on the east side sell for $60-65,000. Monthly cashflow is $750 a month, on average … well above one percent.

The west side, on the other hand, has slightly higher price points and rents. Homes sell for 70-75,000, and rents are in the $900 range.

It takes 30-60 days from closing to repair and refurbish properties so they’re ready to rent.

The rehab process doesn’t follow a cookie-cutter template. Bryce and his partners have standardized the contractors and materials used, but each property gets an individual evaluation.

He wants well-functioning, desirable rentals that will save the company time and maintenance costs in the long-term.

That keeps tenants happy. Bryce also works to keep tenants happy by building relationships with tenants via his property management company.

“Our tenants love us,” Bryce says. A big reason is great communication from his property management team, with whom he has a 10-year relationship.

What about the general atmosphere of the Cleveland market? Ohio is extremely landlord-friendly, says Bryce. The law allows for a 3-day notice to vacate for non-paying tenants. The eviction process is only 10 days.

That doesn’t mean Bryce follows those timelines … he says his response is to establish a relationship with tenants and make sure the lines of communication are open. Yet another reason why property management is so important!

Investors interested in the Cleveland market should listen in to get access to a special report by Bryce that includes even more details!

Ohio Field Trip

Bryce really loves Ohio, and he thinks other investors will too.

Cleveland has great sports teams and the second-largest performing arts district outside of New York City.

But it’s also experiencing a revitalization that you can only really understand by kicking the dirt.

That’s why we recommend the Cleveland Field Trip.

You’ll get a chance to tour Cleveland with Bryce. But you’ll also learn about the investment model Bryce uses … an excellent education even if Cleveland isn’t right for you.

We live in an era of over-saturated markets. It’s hard to find markets that make sense. But some markets are just starting to get hot.

The very best way to get in on these markets is to learn from someone who has boots on the ground. Because remember, you’re not looking for a property, or even just a market … you’re looking for a TEAM.

And a field trip is the best way to meet the people … who know the market … and can help YOU build your own brilliant team.


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Creating Consistent Cashflow with Retail Real Estate

Most people in the real estate investing world tend to gravitate toward a specialty … a market about which they know ALL the ins and outs.

On our latest show, we’ll talk to someone who has made a particular market his bread and butter … the retail market.

Wait … isn’t retail dead? No!

In this episode we’ll talk with a 30-year veteran of the retail investment industry about WHY the retail market is still completely viable … and HOW you can get started in the wide world of retail.

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show you’ll hear from:

  • Your seasoned host, Robert Helms
  • His senior co-host, Russell Gray
  • Retail investor and developer Michael Flight

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Why retail?

Michael Flight has been involved in shopping center development since 1986. His business, Concordia Realty has been adding value to shopping centers since 1990.

In his 30-year career, Michael has seen the retail industry change a lot. Change is one constant in the industry, he says.

Several decades ago, the Sears catalogue made a big splash and replaced the business of many local merchants. Today, Sears is going downhill quickly … due to the popularity of online shopping sites like Amazon.

But smart investors have found ways to make brick-and-mortar retail thrive.

Retail facilities have evolved from single-purpose buildings to multi-function facilities (think shopping malls with restaurants, entertainment, and a wide variety of stores).

Businesses like Amazon need space to store and fill orders … another place where real estate folks come in.

Michael calls his specialty “de-mall-ing” … that is, taking a struggling mall and changing out the tenants and revitalizing the complex for modern shoppers.

We’ll explore the nitty gritty of how to get into the retail market, but first, a few great reasons investors should consider retail as part of their investment strategy:

  • One of America’s favorite pastimes is shopping … in person. Although online shopping is increasing in popularity, it’s still only 10 percent of the retail market. And customers flock to big-box stores for necessities like clothes and shoes that are harder to buy online.
  • Investors don’t have to deal with two of the major problems of apartment investing … vacancy and turnover. Tenants typically sign long-term leases ranging from 5 to 40 years to very stable tenants. Michael says many tenants will be national brands who offer lots of equity and will advertise FOR you.
  • Low day-to-day involvement … tenants are responsible for their own maintenance and sometimes even build their own stores. With a triple-net lease, tenants are responsible for real estate taxes, insurance (both property and liability, plus the contents of their store), and maintenance, including common-area maintenance like plowing snow and maintaining lighting.

How does the retail market work?

What does it take to purchase a small shopping center? Michael says potential investors must answer a few questions first …

  • What’s the neighborhood like? Is the property located in a good location?
  • Is there an adequate local population to support retail stores?
  • Is there a good travel path? That is, is the center accessible to cars and located near homes and other businesses?

Once you’ve made sure those criteria are satisfied, you have to look at what kind of tenants are already there … and what kind of tenants you need.

Shopping centers should have an anchor tenant … a grocery store or drug store or other big brand that will draw customers to the shopping complex.

When you’re negotiating, anchor tenants often have a lot of power to negotiate terms. But if you have a really great location, that gives YOU more leverage.

And you have to make sure customers are going to come.

The threat from online retail is real, but that doesn’t mean brick-and-mortar retail stores are failing … it just means investors have to get creative.

That might mean integrating omni-channel options … warehouses that provide last-mile delivery and stores that offer online order pick-up, for example.

But the big question investors have to look at is how can we get more people here … and keep them here longer?

For example, don’t build a shopping center without integrating great places to eat and rest … you’ll get more customers who stick around, and a more successful investment.

Michael emphasizes that investors need to know about retail itself, from how retailers do business and which retailers sell what, to merchandising … putting the right tenants in the right spots.

That means making sure tenants are complimentary. Have a couple clothing stores? Make sure you look for a shoe store as well.

The fine details of retail investing

We asked Michael what he looks for when he is figuring out finances.

He said he wants the loan-to-square-foot amount to be $100 or less.

After that part is figured out, he does underwriting based on a 10-year lease.

Lenders range from big lenders to banks or private loans for turnaround situations.

“We really like to play in the 1 to 20 million dollar range,” says Michael. This puts him below big institutional facilities … but above the mom-and-pop shops.

How long does it usually take to rehab a distressed retail asset? Nothing ever goes as planned, Michael says, but three years is typical to execute a solid business plan.

Retail is a LOT different than single-family homes and apartment complexes, so we asked Michael to explain some of the big differences.

In retail, tenants typically get a retail improvement allowance.

Owners will offer a white box … drywall, drop ceilings, concrete floors, and bathrooms. They often offer an allowance to build out the store to the tenant’s specifications.

When tenants have very specific construction specifications, Michael says a good option is offering money or free rent so the tenant can deal with construction on their own.

Why should the investor pay for modifications to the retail space? It’s the standard … and investors want to draw in tenants that will stay for 5 or 10 years, or longer.

Remember, if you’re not ready yet to take on an entire shopping mall, working with a syndicator is always an excellent way to dip your toes into retail.

To dive into ALL the details, listen in for access to Michael’s special report on retail investing. He covers the HOW and WHY of retail real estate in depth.

Listen to experts!

You can’t fake 30 years of expertise.

Our mission is to find subject matter guides who know what they’re talking about and can educate our audience … YOU.

Michael Flight is a great example of someone who walks the talk. He is an expert in this area … and we hope your curiosity about the retail market has been piqued.

For more wisdom from experts, check out our Future of Money and Wealth video series … or meet some of the best minds in the investing world at our annual Summit at Sea™.


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Demographics trumps politics …

We’ve been around long enough to see a lot of things come and go … politicians, economic theory … business, social, and investing fads … movements of all kinds …

And the world continues to spin … people work and consume … innovators create … businesses produce … and life goes on.

That’s because there’s one thing underpinning all of it …

People.

And as long as there are people, there will be an economy … and opportunities to grow and produce wealth by serving their needs.

Sure, when times are tough, it’s harder.  Not every business or industry survives. And it’s never a level playing field, so get over it.

The rewards go to the people who are best informed, best connected, and most willing to trust their own judgment and act when others hesitate.

One of the keys to success is anticipating what large sub-groups of people are going to want and need … and getting in position early to meet those needs.

Some uber-smart people like Steve Jobs have a nearly superhuman ability to anticipate future needs, create cutting edge products, and literally invent entirely new industries.

We’re nowhere near that smart.

That’s why we’re just real estate guys and not tech guys.  We’re more like Forrest Gump than Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg, or Jeff Bezos.

But the right real estate is the perfect wealth building vehicle for average people like us.  It’s much more common sense than genius vision.

And real estate investing is primarily based on a very basic understanding of demographics … with a dash or two of economics.

Anyone with even a cursory interest in economics has heard of the baby boomers.  This is the ginormous group of people born between 1946 and 1964.

As the boomers moved through the cycles of life, the businesses which served their needs also BOOMED.  And it’s not over yet.

But as you can tell from their birthdates, the boomers are a little long in the tooth.  It’s no longer rock n’ roll, muscle cars, starter-homes, or mini-vans.

Today, boomers are driving wealth management, healthcare, and leisure industries, to name a few.

So naturally, there’s a lot of opportunity in understanding the boomer demographic … and positioning yourself to profit from meeting their current and coming needs.

So here are some ideas for investors who want to ride what’s left of the boomer wave for the next couple of decades … 

Senior Housing

Obviously, people need places to live.  But as people age, their needs for housing change.  And even in the senior housing niche, there are different sub-sectors to consider.

Long-time listeners know one of our favorite sub-niches in senior housing is residential assisted living.  It’s a space that’s gaining attention, but still has a LOT of opportunity ahead.

In fact, we’re excited to see commercial real estate consulting firm Jones, Lang and LaSalle (JLL) just launched a semi-annual report on senior housing.

They’re responding to growing investor interest in this asset class.

One of the conclusions of their inaugural survey is “the most desirable sub-sector is … independent and assisted living …”

One of our favorite features of this niche is it’s not a fad or discretionary expense.  No matter what happens, people will make caring for the elderly a top priority … which means cash flowing your way.

Thanks to our good friend (and Summit at Sea™ faculty member) Gene Guarino for introducing us to this exciting and profitable niche.

Vacation and Leisure

To no surprise, each year at our annual goal setting workshop we find many people have dreams of traveling and vacationing in their retirement.

Boomers are no different … except they’re retiring right NOW.  AARP’s 2018 Travel Trends report says …

“The percentage of boomers saying they travel to relax and rejuvenate jumped from 38% to 49%.”

“Forty-seven percent plan to travel domestically and internationally.  Top choices for going abroad: the Caribbean/Latin America and Europe.”

“Sixty-two percent of boomers stay in hotels or motels … over staying in private homes … they prefer the amenities, like concierge and room service, offered at a hotel.”

Perhaps obviously, resort properties are another effective way to earn rents from affluent tenants … and a great way to have renters pay for YOUR vacation home.

Best of all, because the tenants aren’t in long-term leases, you can enjoy your beautiful property when it isn’t rented out.  You’ve probably never thought that about your C-class apartment building. 😉

Of course, you need to get the market right, especially when talking about Latin America and the Caribbean.

It’s no secret we’ve been … and continue to be … enamored of Belize, and the island of Ambergris Caye in particular.

There are lots of reasons why we love Belize, which we discuss on our field trips, but important factors in picking any resort property market are …

  • supply and demand dynamic
  • price to rental income ratios
  • friendliness to foreign ownership (if non-domestic)
  • great property management
  • ease of access (plane flights)
  • safety

When you get the market and property right, resort property is a really fun and profitable niche.

Syndication

Another of our favorite topics is syndication … for good reason.

More than $30 TRILLION in wealth controlled by boomers.  And there’s a HUGE opportunity to help them manage it.

And one of the the biggest need for boomers is to protect their wealth while generating income to live on.

But even with recent increases in interest rates, yields on bank deposits are pathetically low.

And in a rising rate world, bonds can be tricky … because each increase in rates tomorrow means the bonds you buy today lose principal value.

The obvious answer is income property.

The yields are better.  Real estate hedges against inflation. Even prudent use of debt creates very attractive equity growth rates.

The problem is real estate investing is work most boomers don’t want to do.  But that’s where YOU can help … and create a profitable business for yourself

Demographics Trumps Politics and Financial Engineering

While there are certainly some VERY significant dynamics occurring which may dramatically impact the future of money and wealth (things you should absolutely be paying attention to) …

Ultimately, the basic needs and desires of people drive economic activity and opportunity much more profoundly than anything politicians and bankers do.

The bottom line is we think investors who own properties and businesses which serve basic human needs will be best positioned to survive and thrive in virtually any economic environment.

Until next time … good investing!


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Expert Tips for Navigating Uncertain Times

In uncertain times, we all need a little wisdom to guide us to the right path.

So today, we bring you the words of the wise.

Property prices are continuing to inch upward in many markets. And the stock market is starting to tumble down. How should investors navigate the turmoil?

Listen in to hear from some of the smartest folks we know on their predictions for what the future holds … and their best tips for staying smart and focused in the midst of the storm.

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show you’ll hear from:

    • Your expert host, Robert Helms
    • His amateur co-host, Russell Gray
    • Brien Lundin, author of the Gold Newsletter
    • Economist Peter Schiff
    • Chris Martenson and Adam Taggart, authors of Prosper!
    • Rich Dad Poor Dad author Robert Kiyosaki

 


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Brien Lundin on metals and money supply

Brien Lundin is our go-to expert on precious metals. He writes the Gold Newsletter and directs the New Orleans Investment Conference.

His predictions about the metals market have been spot on. We asked him how he keeps his thumb on the pulse. The short answer? “Experience,” says Brien.

Three decades of reading, researching, and making connections have given Brien enough information to come to the conclusion that, “Metals have settled into a fairly reliable long-term pattern.”

In fact, he says the future for metals is as close to inevitable as possible in the investing world.

High debt in the U.S. and other countries means their currencies will be depreciated, at least to some extent, and that means higher gold prices in the long term, says Brien.

With a predicted three or four rate hikes coming from the Fed in the next year, Brien predicts we’ll continue to have a weaker dollar for several years.

Why should real estate investors be interested in metals? Alternative investments like precious metals allow you to divorce yourself from the levers the government pulls to adjust the economy, says Brien.

Confused about the options? “Roll up your sleeves,” and dive in, says Brien.

Brien also had some words of advice … “Look around you to get the best investment advice.”

One way to do that? Attend the New Orleans Investment Conference. The conference is packed with people looking to learn. Off-mic conversations are part of the package!

Peter Schiff on the global economy and Puerto Rico

“It’s easier than people think to predict the future. The hard part is predicting the ‘when,’” says Peter.

Economists have been predicting a dollar crisis for a while, and Peter thinks we are in the beginning of that crisis … “The dollar is dropping like a stone against the Chinese yuan,” he says.

Why? According to Peter, it’s payback for monetary policy mistakes from the Fed that led to the major economic crises of the past few decades, including the dot-com bubble and the housing bubble.

“As the dollar is falling, prices are rising,” says Peter. Oil prices are up. Bond yields are rising, and that means interest rates are rising too. Peter predicts the combination of rising prices and high interest rates will be too much for the market to bear.

Crisis is coming, he says.

“What’s going to kill us is the government’s cure,” Peter adds. After the real estate bubble collapsed, the government attempted to pump up the market by slashing interest rates … and succeeding in completely re-inflating the bubble. That bubble will make the crisis worse, he says.

Peter has started his own investment fund through Euro Pacific Capital. He aims to help investors diversify out of the U.S. dollar.

Gold stocks have moved up, says Peter. “We are really poised now for major gain.”

And what about Puerto Rico? If you’ve been listening to the show, you’ll know Peter not only invests in Puerto Rico, but lives there too.

“It’s green again,” says Peter. There are some problems due to service providers who have left the island. But overall, “People think it’s worse than it is,” he says.

In fact, Peter thinks there’s more opportunity in Puerto Rico than before Hurricane Maria. Abandoned properties and foreclosures could be the perfect opportunity for investors to step in.

Chris Martenson and Adam Taggart on social capital and the Summit at Sea™

Chris Martenson and Adam Taggart, co-authors of the invaluable book Prosper!, chatted with us about some tangible steps to help YOU prosper.

Key among them is social capital.

“What are your strengths and weaknesses?” asks Adam. “Find people who have complementary skills and can fill in your weaknesses.”

“No one can really have a handle on everything,” Chris adds. In our rapidly changing world, he says it’s wonderful when you can recognize people as kindred spirits … and learn from many points of view.

One way to get around some kindred spirits is to attend our annual Investor Summit at Sea™. In fact, all of the guests in this episode will attend the Summit.

It’s more about context than content, Chris and Adam agree … and we’re sure the context of the Summit will be the environment of your investor dreams.

Robert Kiyosaki on humility and getting around smart folks

Robert Kiyosaki doesn’t believe in school. “The trouble with going to school is that you have to be an expert by yourself, and that keeps you small,” he says.

More important than money or school smarts? “A very smart team” that operates on the basis of mutual respect and trust.

Robert recommends hanging around people who DON’T think they’re the smartest people in the room. Humility is a great tool, he says.

“All coins have three sides. Most people think there’s only one side … theirs,” says Robert. “It’s impossible for a coin to only have one side. Intelligence equals standing on the edge and looking at both sides.”

Like F. Scott Fitzgerald once said, “The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.”

Robert recommends getting around other investors so you can get around a variety of ideas. He recommends the Summit … and you’ll be able to meet him if you come!

Plus, Robert’s wife Kim Kiyosaki will hold a special ladies-only session at the Summit. Robert encourages female investors and partners of investors to attend and learn about why they don’t need a man to get ahead.

Meet and mingle with smart people

No one knows where the future is headed with certainty … but there’s one thing all our smart investor friends are certain about, and that’s the importance of getting around the right people and assembling your team.

Want to reach out? The Investor Summit at Sea™ is the perfect first step.

Unable to attend the entire Summit? Consider joining us on land for the first two days. We’re holding a brand-new event, a conference we’re calling The Future of Money and Wealth.

Hoping to see you there!


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