Investor Summit at Sea 2018 – Part Two

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, we bring the Summit at Sea™ to you! In part two of our Summit recap, listen to expert investors discuss the topics they know best, including:

  • Why moving to Puerto Rico can save you big bucks
  • What kind of capital you need to prepare for the future
  • The benefits of investing in real assets

And more! Our faculty will give you a taste of life at sea on the Summit cruise ship.

You’ll hear from:

  • Your smooth-sailing host, Robert Helms
  • His seasick (just kidding!) co-host, Russell Gray
  • Economist Peter Schiff
  • Chris Martenson and Adam Taggart, co-authors of Prosper!
  • The apartment king, Brad Sumrok
  • David Sewell, agricultural farmland broker and syndicator
  • Brand-building consultant Kyle Wilson
  • Syndicator Michael Becker
  • Author of the Gold Newsletter, Brien Lundin
  • Precious metals dealer Dana Sanderson
  • Real estate guru Kathy Fetke
  • And finally … the godfather of real estate, Bob Helms

 


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Tax free in sunny Puerto Rico

The Summit at Sea™ is more than just a once-in-a-lifetime educational opportunity … it’s also a cruise around the Caribbean.

One of our stops was lovely Puerto Rico (PR), where some Summit attendees were lucky enough to be hosted by faculty member Peter Schiff. Peter moved his family and business to Puerto Rico about five years ago.

“It was not a sacrifice,” says Peter. He sees great benefits to living in PR. It’s very family friendly and has beautiful weather and beaches and great communities.

But the biggest benefit … and the reason Peter relocated to this island territory … is the tax breaks. Puerto Rico has a four percent corporate tax, and residents can receive dividends tax free.

Living and working in PR is the best way to maximize tax benefits … although you only need to be in the area 183 days a year. But since Peter is “trapped by the school year,” he chooses to enjoy this island paradise year round.

“It’s not as onerous as it seems,” he says of getting and maintaining Puerto Rico residency. We can vouch for that!

Ways to build your capital

Chris Martenson and Adam Taggart joined us on stage to chat about the value of attending the Summit … and the importance of building the eight types of capital they outline in their book, Prosper!

Their key takeaway from the Summit? The number of millennials interested in finding ways to build capital and prepare for the future. “There is a critical mass of young investors who are keenly interested in our message,” says Chris.

During a breakout with millennials, Chris and Adam witnessed young investors getting the chance to learn from experienced investors.

They were impressed by millennials’ command of pressing issues, including, Adam says, resource depletion, species extinction, and the fact that lifestyle costs are quickly outpacing wages.

“Younger generations have nothing to gain if the status quo continues as it is, but older generations have everything to lose,” notes Adam. The big question is how to resolve this tension.

Younger generations will be the ones to come up with solutions … so it’s important they realize that the other side of challenge is always opportunity.

Folks who are intelligent and aware will have a chance to make an awful lot of money … but they can’t do it with financial capital alone.

“If all you have is financial capital, you’ve basically just painted a big target on yourself,” Adam says. He says emotional capital is probably the most important form of capital to have.

That means being able to handle crisis without falling apart … and coming back stronger. It’s the willingness to be vulnerable … and make meaningful connections with other people.

“It’s hard to find places where you can drop your guard,” says Adam, but that’s why the Summit is so extraordinary … it allows attendees to be real and experience true connection with a diverse group of people.

Turning dollars into precious metals

We had two faculty members speak to our attendees about precious metals investing. Brien Lundin is the author of the Gold Newsletter, and Dana Samuelson is a precious metals and rare coins dealer.

We invited these men to join us as faculty members because even though our focus is real estate investing, we believe investors should be looking at the bigger picture of all real assets … including precious metals.

“I was really blown away at the quality of the speakers, the audience interactions, and the audience itself,” Brien says. Dana agrees, “I’ve never met a more unassuming group of over-achievers in my life.”

Both men had similar advice for investors.

According to Brien, “Some level of dollar depreciation is inevitable.” And, he adds, “Every developed economy is in the same boat.”

Gold provides a hedge against appreciation because it’s the standard of wealth … and has been since currency was first created. “We are seeing a U.S. fiscal situation where debt is going to increase, which will naturally push gold higher,” says Dana.

For investors unsure of where to start, Dana offers reassurance. “Buying and selling gold is pretty easy these days,” he says. Investors have the option of buying physical metals or coins, buying in paper form through ETFs, or buying by proxy through mining shares.

If that’s not a sign to go for the gold, we don’t know what is!

The Summit experience

We spoke to six other Summit faculty to get their takes on this year’s Summit.

Multi-family investor and syndicator Brad Sumrok says, “I thought I knew what to expect, but I was blown away. The Summit is a mind-expanding experience.”

A common thread was the value of connecting with other investors … even outside of formal sessions. “Dinners and hanging out were the most valuable part of the cruise,” says syndicator Michael Becker.

A third-year faculty member, Kyle Wilson, says, “The network and connections are unbelievable. We come to get good ideas and bounce ideas off of each other.”

David Sewell agrees that the Summit is a center for unbelievable growth and learning. “I learn something new every time I’m here.”

Like our gold-loving friends, David believes in the value of investing in real assets to gain protection from the volatile dollar. His chosen asset is agricultural real estate, specifically coffee and cacao farms in Latin America.

Because of high, steady demand, getting into the coffee and chocolate business is “almost a no-brainer,” David says.

His goal is to monetize his business away from U.S. dollars into gold … and he’s learned how to do that, he says, by attending the Summit and learning from the stellar faculty.

Both David and real estate expert Kathy Fetke, along with many other Summit attendees and faculty, know big changes are coming to the U.S. dollar and to resource availability around the world.

But, says Kathy, “The right advice can change everything.” It can be scary to realize the reality of things … but you can’t prepare for the future if you don’t know what’s coming.

The Summit is invaluable for Kathy because it provides a chance to hear about massive upcoming changes … and discover ways to prepare.

For example, Costa Rica and Ohio are both wonderful places for growing food and accessing clean water, two things Kathy says will be incredibly important to have in an uncertain future.

Kathy was also impressed by the young people at the Summit. “They give me confidence in the future,” she says.

Our long-time contributor Bob Helms, the grandfather of real estate, agrees. “I was very impressed with the information, energy, and knowledge of the young people,” he says.

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Expert Tips for Navigating Uncertain Times

In uncertain times, we all need a little wisdom to guide us to the right path.

So today, we bring you the words of the wise.

Property prices are continuing to inch upward in many markets. And the stock market is starting to tumble down. How should investors navigate the turmoil?

Listen in to hear from some of the smartest folks we know on their predictions for what the future holds … and their best tips for staying smart and focused in the midst of the storm.

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show you’ll hear from:

    • Your expert host, Robert Helms
    • His amateur co-host, Russell Gray
    • Brien Lundin, author of the Gold Newsletter
    • Economist Peter Schiff
    • Chris Martenson and Adam Taggart, authors of Prosper!
    • Rich Dad Poor Dad author Robert Kiyosaki

 


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Brien Lundin on metals and money supply

Brien Lundin is our go-to expert on precious metals. He writes the Gold Newsletter and directs the New Orleans Investment Conference.

His predictions about the metals market have been spot on. We asked him how he keeps his thumb on the pulse. The short answer? “Experience,” says Brien.

Three decades of reading, researching, and making connections have given Brien enough information to come to the conclusion that, “Metals have settled into a fairly reliable long-term pattern.”

In fact, he says the future for metals is as close to inevitable as possible in the investing world.

High debt in the U.S. and other countries means their currencies will be depreciated, at least to some extent, and that means higher gold prices in the long term, says Brien.

With a predicted three or four rate hikes coming from the Fed in the next year, Brien predicts we’ll continue to have a weaker dollar for several years.

Why should real estate investors be interested in metals? Alternative investments like precious metals allow you to divorce yourself from the levers the government pulls to adjust the economy, says Brien.

Confused about the options? “Roll up your sleeves,” and dive in, says Brien.

Brien also had some words of advice … “Look around you to get the best investment advice.”

One way to do that? Attend the New Orleans Investment Conference. The conference is packed with people looking to learn. Off-mic conversations are part of the package!

Peter Schiff on the global economy and Puerto Rico

“It’s easier than people think to predict the future. The hard part is predicting the ‘when,’” says Peter.

Economists have been predicting a dollar crisis for a while, and Peter thinks we are in the beginning of that crisis … “The dollar is dropping like a stone against the Chinese yuan,” he says.

Why? According to Peter, it’s payback for monetary policy mistakes from the Fed that led to the major economic crises of the past few decades, including the dot-com bubble and the housing bubble.

“As the dollar is falling, prices are rising,” says Peter. Oil prices are up. Bond yields are rising, and that means interest rates are rising too. Peter predicts the combination of rising prices and high interest rates will be too much for the market to bear.

Crisis is coming, he says.

“What’s going to kill us is the government’s cure,” Peter adds. After the real estate bubble collapsed, the government attempted to pump up the market by slashing interest rates … and succeeding in completely re-inflating the bubble. That bubble will make the crisis worse, he says.

Peter has started his own investment fund through Euro Pacific Capital. He aims to help investors diversify out of the U.S. dollar.

Gold stocks have moved up, says Peter. “We are really poised now for major gain.”

And what about Puerto Rico? If you’ve been listening to the show, you’ll know Peter not only invests in Puerto Rico, but lives there too.

“It’s green again,” says Peter. There are some problems due to service providers who have left the island. But overall, “People think it’s worse than it is,” he says.

In fact, Peter thinks there’s more opportunity in Puerto Rico than before Hurricane Maria. Abandoned properties and foreclosures could be the perfect opportunity for investors to step in.

Chris Martenson and Adam Taggart on social capital and the Summit at Sea™

Chris Martenson and Adam Taggart, co-authors of the invaluable book Prosper!, chatted with us about some tangible steps to help YOU prosper.

Key among them is social capital.

“What are your strengths and weaknesses?” asks Adam. “Find people who have complementary skills and can fill in your weaknesses.”

“No one can really have a handle on everything,” Chris adds. In our rapidly changing world, he says it’s wonderful when you can recognize people as kindred spirits … and learn from many points of view.

One way to get around some kindred spirits is to attend our annual Investor Summit at Sea™. In fact, all of the guests in this episode will attend the Summit.

It’s more about context than content, Chris and Adam agree … and we’re sure the context of the Summit will be the environment of your investor dreams.

Robert Kiyosaki on humility and getting around smart folks

Robert Kiyosaki doesn’t believe in school. “The trouble with going to school is that you have to be an expert by yourself, and that keeps you small,” he says.

More important than money or school smarts? “A very smart team” that operates on the basis of mutual respect and trust.

Robert recommends hanging around people who DON’T think they’re the smartest people in the room. Humility is a great tool, he says.

“All coins have three sides. Most people think there’s only one side … theirs,” says Robert. “It’s impossible for a coin to only have one side. Intelligence equals standing on the edge and looking at both sides.”

Like F. Scott Fitzgerald once said, “The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.”

Robert recommends getting around other investors so you can get around a variety of ideas. He recommends the Summit … and you’ll be able to meet him if you come!

Plus, Robert’s wife Kim Kiyosaki will hold a special ladies-only session at the Summit. Robert encourages female investors and partners of investors to attend and learn about why they don’t need a man to get ahead.

Meet and mingle with smart people

No one knows where the future is headed with certainty … but there’s one thing all our smart investor friends are certain about, and that’s the importance of getting around the right people and assembling your team.

Want to reach out? The Investor Summit at Sea™ is the perfect first step.

Unable to attend the entire Summit? Consider joining us on land for the first two days. We’re holding a brand-new event, a conference we’re calling The Future of Money and Wealth.

Hoping to see you there!


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Lessons from Puerto Rico for real estate investors …

“Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

   – George Santayana


This is one of our favorite quotes.  It’s simple yet powerful wisdom … useful for individuals, businesses, governments … and certainly for investors!

We could take this theme in a thousand different directions, but this CNBC headline caught our attention this week …

Here’s how an obscure tax change sank Puerto Rico’s economy

With tax reform in today’s financial headlines … and our memories of what happened to real estate after the 1986 tax reform …

… we think it’s a good time to consider the impact of tax policy on the economy, jobs, and real estate.

As for Puerto Rico … it’s a huge mess after Hurricane Maria.  Lots of infrastructure and real estate have been destroyed.

Of course, the financial mess in Puerto Rico was in the news long before Maria showed up.  The natural disaster just made the financial disaster a whole lot worse.

Let’s dig in and look for lessons for real estate investors …

The CNBC article points out, “Even before a devastating hurricane … the government was struggling with an economy in shambles …”

And, “That fiscal mess has its roots in the repeal of a controversial corporate tax break that helped spark an exodus from the island that sent its economy into reverse.”

Yikes.  Will people and businesses really move just because of some “tiny” tax law?

Yes.  Yes, they will.  It turns out taxes (and avoiding them) are kind of a big deal to people and businesses.

In this case, a tax break, “enacted in 1976, allowed U.S. manufacturing companies to avoid corporate income taxes on profits made in U.S. territories, including Puerto Rico. Manufacturers … flocked to the island.”

This lead to an economic and employment boom in Puerto Rico.

Of course, when politicians see money they just can’t help themselves.  The Puerto Rican politicians started spending, and borrowing to spend even more.

Meanwhile, back in the U.S., the CNBC article says …

But by the early 1990s, the provision faced growing opposition from critics who attacked the tax break as a form of corporate welfare.”

So in 1996, a ten-year phasing out of the tax break began and “plant closures and job losses followed.

Which bring us to tax policy and real estate investors …

The law had nothing to do with real estate or investors … but then again, it had EVERYTHING to do with real estate investing …

… because real estate investments are highly dependent on JOBS.

And whether you think it’s fair or not, corporations make decisions about where to do business (or not) based partially on tax policy.

In this case, tax breaks attracted corporations to set up shop and were good for jobs and real estate.  The removal of those breaks had the opposite effect.

Of course, the law in question was passed and repealed at the federal level.  It wasn’t under Puerto Rico’s control.

But Puerto Rico got the lesson.

So in 2012, Puerto Rico passed Act 20 and 22 … effectively becoming an attractive tax haven for both businesses and individuals.

We first heard about this from Summit at Sea™ faculty member Peter Schiff … who moved his asset management company and himself to Puerto Rico to save taxes.

He’s not the only one.  We have several other friends who’ve done the same thing.

Right now, the tax law still exists … though much of Puerto Rico doesn’t.

We think there’s probably a way to combine those two circumstances to create an opportunity for real estate investors.

Of course, back in the U.S., tax reform is in the air again …and corporate tax breaks are in the mix.

Will corporate tax breaks bring businesses to the U.S. and create an employment boom? If so, where?  And will the breaks be permanent or temporary?

It’s too soon to tell, but it’s something we’ll be watching closely.

Meanwhile, there’s another lesson from the Puerto Rico story …

We know a tax break brought in a tide of corporate investment, and the removal of the tax break decades later took the tide back out.

But there was a lot of opportunity in between.

Of course, to catch a wave, you need to be watching the horizon.  And when you see the wave forming, you need to paddle quickly into position.

In Puerto Rico, as in Florida, Houston, and the several Caribbean islands all decimated in varying degrees by the back to back hurricanes …

… there’s going to be a big tide of capital flowing in to repair everything.

And because of the scope of the problems, the season of rebuilding could last quite a while.

Recently, we talked with our boots-on-the-ground turnkey property provider in Orlando, and he says he sees a lot of opportunity in his market right now …

Problem properties are popping up with pricing that leaves some meat on the bone for investors.

That’s good news … not just for investors, but for the community at large … because investment capital is needed to help with the recovery process.

The same is true in Houston, Puerto Rico and other areas ravaged by the storms.

Of course, conditions in each market are different.  Orlando is in far better shape than Houston which is far better shape than Puerto Rico.

All that to say there are different levels of distress, bargains, risk and reward in each market.

Unfortunately for the average individual part-time investor, the gap between seeing opportunity and being able to take advantage can be too big to bridge.

For most U.S. citizens, their “investment” into these disaster zones will be a de facto donation through their taxes, as federal relief funds pour into each area.

Of course, many kind-hearted individuals will make modest personal donations, which is admirable.

But to get LARGE amounts of private capital into each area to help rebuild, it’s going to take an investment opportunity.

And we think private syndicators have a role to play.

Motivated real estate entrepreneurs with skills and availability have an opportunity to start a private investment fund to aggegate private capital and make profitable investments in each of these areas.

Busy qualified investors who don’t have the time or skills, but see the opportunity, can make an investment in these private funds and earn a profit while helping heal ravaged markets.

This is the kind of capitalism that makes a positive difference in the world …  people helping themselves by helping others.

Or as our good friend Gene Guarino often says, “Do well, by doing good.”

Until next time … good investing!


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