Looking Ahead with our Predictions Panel – Part 2

Listen in to hear part two of our 2018 Predictions Panel!

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, we sit down with three expert economists. Our guests hail from Fannie Mae, the international finance sector, and the National Association of Realtors® (NAR).

Together, we’ll look back on the economic trends of 2017 … and talk about what our experts think is coming around the corner in 2018.

Then we’ll put it all together to calculate how trends in the U.S. and across the world will affect YOU as a real estate investor.

This show features:

  • Your trending host, Robert Helms
  • His not-terribly-trendy co-host, Russell Gray
  • Doug Duncan, senior vice president and chief economist at Fannie Mae
  • Richard Duncan (no relation!), best-selling author and economist
  • George Ratiu, director of quantitative and commercial research at NAR

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Where do we fall in the economic cycle?

We asked Doug, Richard, and George about where the U.S. economy will be heading in the next 12 months.

“Recent data suggests a recession probably won’t happen in the next 12 months,” says Doug. He reminds investors to be mindful, however … “Every expansion eventually ends.”

Doug also predicts that, “In 2018, we will see a small acceleration of growth over what we saw in 2017.” The forecast at Fannie Mae predicts a growth of approximately 2.75 percent over the next year, after which the market will slow down a bit.

Richard also agrees that although we are in the midst of a remarkably long expansion, it’s unlikely the bubble will burst in the next year.

Should investors sell now? “That depends on their risk tolerance,” Doug told us. “The best strategy is to ride a bubble out and surf it to the top. This is probably not the top of the bubble.”

Every expansion has to end eventually. The market has been growing since the market crash in 2008 … but so far, our expert economists aren’t seeing any major signs of impending recession.

What will cause an eventual crash? “The key as to when the bubble will pop depends on interest rates,” says Richard.

Will interest rates rise?

The biggest factor affecting players in the lending world … that’s you! … is interest rates.

In the next year, says Doug, “The central banks may tighten, which will apply upward pressure to mortgage rates.”

He says upward pressure won’t be significant this year … but that we’re moving that general direction.

Richard is a bit more concerned about rising interest rates, and thinks YOU should be too … he says, “Listeners should be very concerned about the possibility that U.S. interest rates will go up within the year.”

That’s because the Fed is currently reversing quantitative easing right now … essentially “uncreating” money. That may bring danger, as higher interest rates will push asset prices down, says Richard.

He also says higher rates will cause credit to become more expensive and “contract and cripple the economy.”

What’s happening in the housing market?

Doug notes the rental market is slowing down right now … but only because the largest metros are saturated. Smaller, less saturated markets are a better place for investors to be right now.

George agrees. Prices in large-cap spaces are still trending upwards, he says, but investors have started to take their foot off the accelerator over the last year.

By contrast, smaller markets like Austin, Nashville, and Jacksonville are still seeing continued acceleration. “There’s a lot of potential in smaller markets,” says George … and these markets are grabbing the attention of investors, both locally and internationally.

What about the supply side of the equation? “Single family home construction is still running slower than demand, whether that’s from investors or occupants,” says Doug.

George emphasizes the low housing supply … “2017 has been a year characterized by extremely tight inventory,” he says.

But in 2018, George thinks the market will be a stable platform for real estate investors. He says price appreciation will flatten and prices may even decline in some markets.

On the other hand, Doug predicts that “Real prices will continue to accelerate faster than has historically been the case.”

Even if housing prices flatline this year, they’re already historically high. Will incomes rise to meet the cost of buying property? That depends, in part, on the effect of the recent tax reform.

How will the tax bill affect the economy?

According to Doug, “The tax change should result in household income growth due to tax cuts for most households and acceleration in business investment,” which will increase productivity and wages.

“This is the biggest sweeping change in a very long time,” says George.

Will the tax bill benefit those who want to become homeowners? George notes that the mortgage interest deduction and property tax deduction were both capped in the new bill … and predicts that will affect the real estate market going forward.

The impact will be higher, however, in states where the property tax is significant.

What does the future look like for millennials?

George notes there is concern about this generation acting differently than past generations. Living in a sharing economy may mean millennials are less likely to want to own their own homes … which could be good for investors.

But according to Doug, “There’s clear evidence that millennials are moving to buy homes.”

Despite the demand, there are some barriers to entry for millennial home buyers … George notes that property prices have increased six percent year over year, while wages have only gone up about two percent.

Combined with rising interest prices, millennials are faced with an affordability challenge. And, says George, “Student debt also presents a serious issue.”

What’s going on in the global market?

Richard sees several areas of concern, globally.

Europe is cutting down on quantitative easing, just like the U.S. This will push interest rates higher, eventually impacting the market negatively, he says.

He is also concerned about Chinese exports. “The world can no longer continue absorbing so many Chinese exports,” he says, and this may lead to tariffs on goods from China.

He thinks China will begin overproducing goods, weakening prices and ultimately causing bank loans to default. This would cause a systemic banking sector crisis in China, says Richard … and have serious repercussions around the world.

For the time being, however, U.S. investors find themselves in a fairly stable position. According to George, “The U.S. economy has performed quite well, even as other places resort to negative interest rates.”

Although George, Richard, and Duncan aren’t sounding any major alarm bells, we encourage you to do your own research and figure out a plan that’s right for you.

Start by checking out part 1 of our 2018 Predictions Panel, if you haven’t already!

Whether you buy, sell, or hold, make sure you’re prepared for an eventual crash. Investing is a long game. Start figuring out your contingency plan now!


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11/21/10: Real Estate Economics – Interviews with the Federal Reserve and National Association of Realtors

As we’re guiding our real estate sailing ship through the choppy economic seas of the past few years, we’ve learned the wisdom of having a lookout watching the horizon for threats and opportunities.

We also like to compare notes with other sailors – especially those whose lookout platforms are higher up than ours.  They can see more and farther than we can.  That’s very helpful when trying to catch a wave or avoid a storm.

So we dove at the chance to interview some high profile people – to find out what they can sea, sea, sea from their higher vantage point.

In beautiful Miami, sitting on the dock of our radio bay, watching the tide roll away:

  • Show host and captain of the good ship Equity, Robert Helms
  • The cut rate first mate, co-host Russell Gray
  • Chief Economist of the National Association of Realtors®, Dr. Lawrence Yun
  • Vice President and Associate Director of Research for the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, Thomas Cunningham, Ph.D
  • President Elect of the National Association of Realtors®, Moe Veissi

Wow!  What an all star line-up!  After watching each of their presentations to the Congress, we decided to chase them down for a quick conversation that we could share with our listeners.  Though they’re all busy men, each was gracious enough to sit down for some one on one with Robert.

Dr. Yun kicks off the show with some comments on the US housing market.  He’s the first economist on earth to see and analyze the housing data gathered by the National Association of Realtors®.  He’s also able to combine the statistical data with lots of relevant anecdotal data – since he interacts regularly Realtors® around the country.  He points out some of the reasons he believes the worst of the storm is past.

Next, we talk to Thomas Cunningham of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta.  Unless you’ve been in a coma the last two years, you know that the Fed has been very active in trying to stimulate the economy with lower interest rates, expanded credit facilities to banks and that mysterious “quantitative easing”.  What does it all mean?  Our mission is to find out!

While economics and monetary policy is interesting, it’s pretty high in the clouds.  So we wrap the show up with a lively conversation with the energetic President-elect of the National Association of Realtors®, Moe Veissi.  Moe shares his thoughts as he transitions from local real estate practitioner to the helm of the world’s largest trade association.

It’s all good stuff, so listen in – and be sure to tell a friend!

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6/20/10: Real World Economics with Dr. Mark Skousen

If you haven’t figured it out by now, macro-economic policy can create pain or pleasure on Main Street USA. We’ve also discovered that what pains Main Street USA can pain the entire world!  So even though it sounds super boring, we decided it made sense to talk about macro-economics and related policy.  Of course, to do this we needed to get someone way smarter than us.  But when it comes to real estate, the danger of listening to most economists is that they’re primarily academics with very little practical experience.  And often, whatever real world experience they do have is limited to just one state or country.  So imagine how refreshing and enlightening it would be to talk with a bona fide economist who thinks like a businessperson AND has real world real estate experience – not just in the US, but abroad!

That sounds like a TALL order!  Fortunately, when it comes to great radio show guests (and beer), tall orders are our specialty!

Bellying up to the radio bar to talk economics and politics are:

  • Your bartender and host, Robert Helms
  • Busboy and co-host, Russell Gray
  • Chief patron and Godfather of Real Estate Estate, Bob Helms
  • Economist, businessman, investor and really big brain, Dr. Mark Skousen

We hop right into the conversation by reflecting briefly on how the experiences of the last few years highlight the direct connection between macro-economic policy and Main Street reality.  We barley get started before we realize we’re in over our heads, so we draft our special guest into the conversational brew.

Dr. Skousen quickly helps us get a handle on the topic.  In addition to having a big brain and formal training, Dr. Skousen’s background as a columnist at Forbes Magazine and his role as the promoter of the annual Freedom Fest conference allows him to tap into the insights of such notable folks as Steve Forbes, Peter Schiff, John Mackey and many more.  In fact, The Real Estate Guys™ are headed to Freedom Fest in fabulous Las Vegas in just a few weeks to expand our minds and meet some of these interesting people!

Dr. Skousen reminds us that real estate economic cycles are long and sometimes slow. He also explains why, unlike others in the past, one particular asset class bubble managed to affect (infect?) the entire financial system of the world.  His comments remind us how truly influential real estate is across all segments of an economy.

Now we thought Dr. Skousen might have a dark (or least amber) economic outlook.  But our fears turned pale, as the good doctor served up a forecast of sunshine.  He shares the reasons for his optimism and reveals what he believes is the single most important ingredient for sustainable recovery.  However, he also expresses his concerns over certain currently policies which he says are actually delaying economic growth.  Then he talks specifically about one area of real estate investing which he says has been showing real promise.  Not surprising, it has to do with the private sector providing some much needed liquidity.  How appropriate!

Long time listeners of The Real Estate Guys™ know we’re big fans of international diversification. Dr. Skousen shares his personal experiences of living and working abroad and how, through his activities in Freedom Fest, he’s seen a marked increase in US citizens’ interest in off-shore investing and strategies.  Wow!  We didn’t know so many people were listening to The Real Estate Guys™.

Like our beer drinking, we have a great time with this show.  We think you will too!

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