This is a SHOCK! … said no one

We’re proudly filing this under the category of “We told you so.” ….

Stripe workers who relocate get $20,000 bonus and a pay cut
– Bloomberg, 9/15/20

“Stripe Inc. plans to make a one-time payment of $20,000 to employees who opt to move out of San Francisco, New York or Seattle, but also cut their base salary by as much as 10% …”

“… companies … have expanded opportunities for employees to work remotely while also signaling … pay cuts if workers move to less-expensive cities.”

“VMware Inc. … Facebook Inc., Twitter Inc. and ServiceNow Inc. have all considered similar measures.”

Of course, we could just as easily file this under “Duh.”

After all, when companies discovered they could move jobs to China and Mexico to save money and increase profits, they did.

Modern tech empowers remote working.

And while many info workers might not be keen on moving overseas … moving to low cost, low tax, good quality of life states is not just palatable … it’s appealing.

The COVID-19 lock-downs have forced businesses into improving their remote workforce management … opening everyone up to a win-win move.

Companies LOWER their labor expenses, while employees improve their NET lifestyle in more affordable markets.

Also obviously, this has implications for the demand for real estate … housing, office, retail … in both the markets losing and those gaining people and their paychecks.

This is just one of many trends the COVID-19 crisis has accelerated, though likely still in its infancy … and worth watching.

That’s why we created the COVID-19 Crisis Investing video series … and why we’re getting regular updates from our Boots-on-the-Ground correspondents.

Shift is happening … and faster than usual.

Investing in this environment is like driving a car … the faster you go, the farther up the road you need to look so you have time to react well.

Here’s another noteworthy article with insights which are a little more challenging to decipher, but worth the effort …

The Death of the 60/40 Portfolio
– Yahoo Finance, 9/6/20

“That’s stock talk. It doesn’t apply to me. I’m a real estate investor!”

Really?

Well, before you click away to check the latest mortgage rates or political pandering, consider …

While 60/40 refers to a typical Wall Street portfolio allocation model for a mix of stocks and bonds.

The reason it’s been a staple … and the reason it’s changing … is highly relevant to real estate investors.

“The biggest takeaway is that Woodard’s team is more confident than ever that … interest rates … will likely … move considerably higher … arguing that investors should start to move away from bonds in their current allocations.”

The “Woodard” they’re referring to is Jared Woodard, Head of the Research Investment Committee for Bank of America Research.

So he’s well-qualified to have an opinion worth contemplating.

But it’s not just rising interest rates that are interesting to real estate investors …

(though that’s a compelling reason to secure as much low-cost long-term debt as you can while you can)

… but his recommendation to “move away from bonds” is important.

So in another “surprise said no one” moment, are reports the two biggest U.S. bondholders in the world (China and Japan) have already started “moving away”.

That’s because when rates rise, bond values fall.

And like any bubble … when bondholders head for the exits en masse, it sets off a very disrupting chain of events in the macro-strata of the financial system.

Of course, as you might suspect … it all rolls downhill onto the often unsuspecting denizens of Main Street.

The reason it’s SO extreme is because of the way bonds are used in the financial system.

In real estate terms, they’re used like properties with equity. The owners borrow against them to raise more cash to lever into more “assets”.

Except these loans against bonds come with margin provisions … which means if the value of the bond falls, you’re either forced to sell at a loss or borrow more.

The point is when balance sheets at every tier of the financial system are stuffed with leveraged bonds …

… a collapse of bond prices is a BIG problem for everyone … including real estate investors. Remember 2008.

(Yes, we know we’ve covered this before. But although the asteroid is moving slowly towards Earth, it still seems important to talk about it and prepare.)

Of course, in 2008 bonds collapsed because of a higher than expected default rate in sub-prime loans.

Yes, it’s true, that was then and this is now. But with an economy still largely locked-down, headlines like this should surprise … no one …

Lower-Credit Homeowners Weigh Heavily on U.S. Mortgage Market
– Bloomberg, 9/15/20

But whether it’s sub-prime borrowers defaulting, large foreign holders dumping, interest rates rising, or leveraged bond-loans going bad …

It doesn’t matter WHY bond values fall … if they do, it’s a threat to the financial system.

The fix, of course, is lots of dollar printing by the Fed, which (as we’ve been saying and saying and saying) puts a lot of pressure on the dollar 

Dethroned Dollar Is Making Waves Across Markets, in Five Charts
– Bloomberg, 9/15/20

Of course, as this article points out, there are different tactics for investors to mitigate risk and capture opportunity …

“Savvas Savouri at Toscafund Asset Management recommends switching out of conventional Treasuries and into inflation-protected securities.”

“’The simple reality is that the only feasible way to get the U.S. to the preferred inflation target is through a dollar devaluation,’”

The article also mentions gold as an alternative tool for the job …

“The dollar’s decline has also helped thrust gold onto center stage … some investors are betting that [gold] bullion will prove a better haven than Treasuries as inflation bites …”

So while there’s a fair amount of consensus about the challenges … there are variations on how to best address it.

And in yet another “surprise … said no one ever” moment …

… real estate is completely missing from mainstream financial media’s discussion of potential solutions.

That’s like heading out to a job site and leaving your best power tools at the workshop. Then again, if you don’t know how to use them, what good are they?

Of course, any talk about the what, why, and how of real estate investing is completely omitted because (in our not-so-humble opinion) mainstream financial media exists to protect and promote Wall Street.

That’s probably why YOU are here. It’s certainly why we are.

The GOOD NEWS is, whether you’re investing in your own account or organizing syndications with private investors …

… there’s a LOT of opportunity RIGHT NOW to use the right real estate as the foundation of a resilient real asset portfolio.

The GREAT news is that even though things are moving faster than normal …

… there’s still time to build your knowledge and relationships and to organize your life and portfolio to get in on the action.

The asteroid hasn’t struck yet … and while it may not … better to be prepared and not have a crisis than to have a crisis catch you unaware and unprepared.

We’re working hard to step-up the volume of ideas, resources, people and opportunities we share with you right now … because we think the times demand it.

There’s a “new normal” on the horizon …

… and while real estate is real, essential and a time-tested vehicle for wealth building and preservation …

… there are new rules and strategies emerging … because market conditions are dramatically shifting.

So be SURE to subscribe to our re-launched YouTube channel, follow us on Facebook, and of course, subscribe to the podcast.

When you support ALL our distribution outlets with your listens, views, likes, shares, comments, questions, and reviews …

… you make it easier for us to attract the guests and resources necessary to produce more and better content for you.

We appreciate you … and look forward to thriving through this crisis with you.

Until next time … good investing!

Building a Successful Real Estate Portfolio as an Active or Passive Investor

Some investors LOVE the nitty gritty … they’re down in the dirt doing deals and building portfolios for themselves and others. 

Then there are investors that LOVE reaping the benefits of real estate but don’t want to get their hands dirty. 

It doesn’t mean they are less passionate … or have to be less successful. It just means that maybe they’re too busy with their day job, running a business, or enjoying the passive benefits of their investments. 

Today, we’re talking about different approaches to building successful real estate portfolios. 

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, hear from:

  • Your hyperactive host, Robert Helms
  • His passive co-host, Russell Gray
  • Regular contributors and super-successful investors, Dave Zook and Brad Sumrok

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Building portfolios passively

One of the best ways to learn about investing is by talking to investors who have been there and done that. 

Today we’re going to hear great stories from successful investors as we discuss building a successful real estate portfolio … as either an active or passive investor. 

There are two primary ways to invest. 

You can invest actively … be the one out there finding markets, dealing with agents, talking to lenders, qualifying for loans, and putting deals together. 

Or, you can invest passively … working instead to find great partners, great syndicators, great real estate people and mortgage teams and letting them do the work. 

If you’ve listened to us before, you know that we are big fans of this syndication approach.

Whether you are investing through somebody else or in your own account, you are responsible for building and developing your own portfolio. 

The thing is, most of us aren’t trained. We don’t do portfolio management professionally. We’re just trying to figure out how to do real estate deals. 

One of the neat things about being a real estate syndicator is that you can pivot when the market changes. 

We’re fortunate to know people who have put together big portfolio services and have a perspective that we think is valuable for everybody out there to hear. 

Real assets, passive investments

The gentleman we are speaking with is not someone who has chosen to get rich in a niche, meaning he doesn’t do just one thing. Instead, quite the opposite … what he does is look for opportunity. We call him the Real Asset Investor … Dave Zook. 

Like so many people who get into the apartment niche, he ran out of his own money and started to think about syndication. He began raising capital … and had big success. 

In five short years, he has raised nearly $200 million. And now he helps other people work toward the same outcomes … and the essence of being a syndicator is helping other people. 

But it wasn’t always that way. 

“I had specifically made up my mind that I wasn’t going to be a real estate investor,” Dave says. “But, then with some of my businesses I got to the point where I was paying around a half a million dollars a year in tax.”

Dave says that he realized that real estate could be a source of cash flow … a great way to build wealth … AND a real tax protection vehicle. That’s what drew him in. 

There are a variety of ways that investors can invest. Dave and his team focus on real assets. Though he started in multifamily, there are many other ways to get involved. 

One example is self-storage space. 

“I was looking for an asset class that I knew typically does very well during some kind of recession,” Dave says. 

Like all asset classes, Dave did his homework and found a team of experts who were comfortable and successful in the space to partner with. 

Self-storage is a great option for syndication because it is difficult to invest individually. Most of these facilities are large and require a significant amount of cash to start … but the payoff is great. 

Another asset Dave has passively invested in is ATMs. Not every ATM is owned and operated by a bank.

“There are a lot of independent ATMs out there. It’s a big range, and it is very profitable,” Dave says. 

The point … syndication isn’t just about real estate. It can be put into play for a variety of asset classes. 

Types of passive investors

So, what type of investor invests alongside a person like Dave who is out there making deals happen?

Dave says, for the most part, the individuals he works with are small business owners … neck deep in running their own businesses and very, very busy. 

These people don’t have a lot of time to be out researching different asset classes, but they still want a good return on the capital that they are putting out into the market. 

There are also a decent amount of high-paid professionals … doctors, lawyers, surgeons, dentists, and the like … who are looking to find deals where they can offset ordinary income. 

Generally speaking though, the classic passive investor is somebody that has more money than time. 

They could go out and look for their own deals, but they’re busy doing whatever it is that allows them to have the money to put into the deals. 

That’s why syndication is so appealing to them. 

Get ready for AIMNATCON

Our second guest is the apartment king … Brad Sumrok … here to remind all you investors out there that AIMNATCON … the Apartment Investor Mastery National Conference … is coming up. 

“Today, people’s lives have been disrupted and yet the apartment business goes on,” Brad says. 

This year, the conference is 100% virtual … so people from all over the world can participate from the safety of their own homes. 

This event brings together some of the best teachers, speakers, and investors on the planet. 

For more about AIMNATCON and building your portfolio through passive investing … listen to the full episode!


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Wilson Properties – Tom K. Wilson

Wilson Properties – Tom K. Wilson

 

High returns, hands-off management, and tenants that won’t skip out overnight … That’s commercial real estate syndication!

 

Commercial real estate investing is one of the best kept investment secrets … and Tom Wilson, CEO of Wilson Investment Properties, knows what it takes to be successful.

Tom began building his own real estate portfolio in the 1970s. Since then, he has bought and sold over $500 million of real estate.

At Wilson Investment Properties, Tom and his team help investors like YOU get started in commercial real estate syndications.

Rather than leave you to find investments on your own, Tom is here to ease the investment process by:

✓ Identifying and selecting profitable properties

✓ Providing guidance through all phases of acquisition

✓ Managing all aspects of the property after the purchase

✓ Assisting in the final sale of the property

Partner with a real estate provider with a proven track record of success!

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Gold & Silver

Gold & Silver

 

Protect yourself against inflation and preserve wealth with precious metals … lasting assets with lasting value!

 

 

This is still true now!  Gold and silver are REAL assets with REAL value … and an unwavering rock for core stability in any investors portfolio. 

Precious metals are ALWAYS worth something … and tend to become more valuable when paper money fails.  In actuality, gold and silver HOLD their VALUE while other currencies continue to be devalued by governments and banking institutions. 

That’s why gold and silver have been at the core of wealth and monetary systems for centuries, and why  … smart investors look to these assets to preserve personal wealth and hedge against inflation. 

Precious metals like gold and silver are one of the few asset classes that hold their purchasing power in times of uncertainty. 

In fact, after the 2008 housing crisis, Gold and silver overperformed projections as demand soared for the next few years … 

And in 2020 … Public demand for deliverable hard asset precious metals is actually stronger than in 2009

And you can’t just pull out a printing press and produce more gold and silver to meet increasing demand on a moment’s notice.  

Some argue against the metals because of their lack of liquidity, but when you find yourself needing liquidity …

 You can borrow against your gold and silver reserves! 

In addition to being desirable and valuable … Silver offers significant utility as well!  It is an essential material for electronics, cell phones, solar panels, and consumer products like jewelry, silverware, and mirrors. 

As silver is more abundant than gold, it is less expensive and can be bought in more incremental varieties and liquitied in smaller incremental quantities as well. 

One thing to pay attention to for spotting opportunities in the precious metals space is the gold/silver ratio … measuring the strength of gold versus silver prices. This ratio shows investors how many ounces of silver it takes to purchase one ounce of gold. So, a ratio of 25 to 1 means it takes 25 ounces of silver to buy one ounce of gold. 

The gold/silver ratio can be a valuable tool to determine the right time to buy gold or silver.  Some investors choose to buy silver when the ratio is high and switch to buying gold when the ratio falls. No matter how you buy …

Gold and silver are lasting assets to secure your portfolio with lasting value! 

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Clues in The News

Crossbreeding billionaire brilliance …

Personal development guru Tony Robbins reminds people …

“Success leaves clues.”

The idea is that success isn’t purely a product of blind luck or extreme innate ability. For guys like us, that’s REALLY good news.

Success is much more a matter of developing the knowledge and discipline to take aggressive action based on proven patterns and principles.

So if you carefully observe both what a successful person does and how they think, you can often replicate their thinking, behavior, and results.

Similarly, if you’ve had success in one area of life, you can probably apply those principles to other endeavors and achieve success there too.

That’s why we pay attention to successful people … even those who aren’t real estate investors.

So we perked up when we saw this headline …

Warren Buffett offers his 2 best pieces of advice for aspiring young investors

– Yahoo Finance 4/28/20

Of course, notwithstanding his investment in Berkshire Hathaway Home Services, Warren Buffet isn’t really a real estate guy.

But Warren Buffet is arguably one of the most successful, famous, most admired investors in modern history. There’s probably a lot to learn from him.

And since we need a timeout from our intense monitoring of the macroeconomic tsunami forming on the horizon …

(we’ll do a deep dive on our upcoming Crisis Investing webinar)

… today we’re looking at what real estate investors can learn from Warren Buffet.

After all, at nearly 90 years old, Buffet has seen his fair share of crises. Few people on earth are as experienced at navigating stormy economic times and building wealth in spite of frail financial infrastructure.

So according to the Yahoo Finance article and accompanying interview video, Buffet’s first tip is to learn accounting.

Tip number two is do NOT invest based on charts (an approach referred to by stock traders as “technical analysis”), but rather to focus on “buying good businesses instead.”

As with most brilliant people, there’s a lot of wisdom packed into just couple of sentences. So let’s take a moment to unpack it and look for principles we can apply to real estate investing …

TRADERS attempt to buy low and sell high … going from cash to asset to cash. The mindset is to accumulate cash.

INVESTORS seek first to acquire a stake in a profit-generating enterprise. They focus on accumulating cash FLOW … or what we call the ongoing efforts of others.

Of course, they’re happy to buy low and enjoy some capital gains too. But the purpose of buying is to acquire cash flow.

In real estate, flippers and wholesalers are TRADERS … they hustle to go from cash to asset to cash.

The difference between a stock and real estate trader is the real estate trader has the ability to improve the asset (add value).

So the real estate trader has some degree of control over creating the capital gain they wish to realize. The stock trader does not.

But whether in stock or real estate trading, the long-term financial performance (the accounting) is less important than the short term “mood of the market” (the technicals).

If the market is hot and new buyers are piling in … especially if those buyers are equipped with cheap credit … then it’s a lot easier to sell high to the next guy.

This investment philosophy is sometimes called “The Greater Fool” because your exit always requires someone coming along willing and able to pay more.

And when rising prices are dependent upon healthy credit markets and abundant jobs, and one or both crash, the line of greater fools gets short real fast.

So the challenge, as many traders just discovered, is hot markets can turn cold quickly … and you can end up a reluctant long-term holder.

Of course, with leverage (margin on stocks, or mortgages on real estate), you may not be able to hold on for the long-term. Then it’s a wipe out.

Mortgages are far more forgiving than margin debt on securities, but negative cash flow on a negative equity property is no fun either.

On the other hand, real estate INVESTORS are much more like Warren Buffet 

… except instead of buying businesses, real estate investors are looking to populate portfolios with profitable cash-flow producing properties.

This is a very timely discussion, because in challenging times like these, QUALITY matters.

And when it comes to sound investments, quality is cash flow.

To survive and thrive long-term, it’s important to look for sound properties … in relatively strong markets … managed by great teams … and serving a viable demographic.

Yes, many markets are weak now … and getting weaker. Ditto for demographics. But some aren’t. And some are well-positioned to bounce back better when things open up again.

So it’s not all doom and gloom. In fact, markets which are dipping now, but positioned to bounce back soon, could present great acquisition opportunities.

This isn’t the time to sit out or tip toe through the trauma.

However, you’ll need to know how to look at the operating financials of an income property … the accounting of real estate.

Warren Buffet says, “that’s got to be like a language to you.”

In other words, you’re not looking at the entrance price, exit price, and profit potential. You’re looking at how to hold for the long term in between.

The Yahoo article refers back to an annual letter Buffet sent his investors way back in 1988 …

“Our favorite hold time is forever.”

– Warren Buffet

In Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, Steven Covey explains it’s important to “begin with the end in mind.”

When you approach real estate as a commodity to trade with your end game being cash … then you’ll focus on short term circumstances and structures to produce short term results.

Then, at the end of the transaction all you end up with is cash.

Worse, cash in the bank pays next to no yield, and with the Fed printing trillions, there’s a possibility (probability) cash will lose value.

So to protect your “profit” you’ll need to quickly find another asset to buy.

But when you approach real estate as a “going concern” … a business … then you underwrite, structure, and manage it very differently … for the LONG term.

It’s not a date, it’s a marriage.

This matters more than ever right now …

It’s not a stretch to think prices for many properties will be falling as the damage done by the COVID-19 shutdown permeates through the economy.

We expect a big chunk of the damage to metastasize through credit markets, further weakening the economy and letting a lot of air out of property prices.

This is a very challenging environment for real estate traders. It’s hard to buy low and sell high when prices are falling faster and farther than any value you might add.

Meanwhile, many investors will sit on the sidelines and let viable deals go by because they don’t want to “pay too much”.

But if you have a 10 or 20 year hold horizon (remember … “our preferred hold time is forever”) …

… it’s less important what you pay today versus having a viable property and structure you can live with long term.

Sometimes prices can fall so you could theoretically buy lower. But if it’s because the availability of capital or credit if limited, it might hider your ability to buy with an optimal structure.

Also, real estate isn’t a static commodity. If the property is in good shape and you pass at the higher price, the lower later price could be because the condition of the property or tenant mix deteriorates.

So sure, you might wait and get the lower price, but is it a better buy? Maybe not. That’s why we say if the deal in front of your make sense, buy it.

Lessons from Warren Buffet’s career suggest that quality is present in all markets.

The time to buy is when an individual deal makes sense and can be structured for the long haul.

If the bust becomes a boom, all ships rise with the tide.

But if the boom becomes a bust, only the well-structured property ownerships will survive to the next boom.

Investing is different than trading. And success is simply a matter of focusing on the relentless execution of the boring basics.

Sure, it’s fun to flip the hot property and find yourself neck-deep in a pile of green paper.

And if you’re short on liquidity, you may need to do that from time to time (though we prefer syndication as a preferred path to having more cash to invest with).

But if you’re aspiring to build a portfolio of properties and a pile of passive income, then it’s wise to take a long-term approach and focus on fundamentals as a proven path to resilient prosperity.

Until next time … good investing!

COVID-19 Crisis – Tips for Property and Portfolio Management

Managing multi-family properties has always had its own challenges and considerations … but the COVID-19 crisis makes it considerably more complicated. 

How are landlords managing the risks and the responsibilities during these difficult times?

We’re checking in with The Apartment King, Brad Sumrok, to get his practical tips for property and portfolio management in the COVID-19 world. 

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, hear from:

  • Your managerial host, Robert Helms
  • His unmanageable co-host, Russell Gray
  • The Apartment King, Brad Sumrok

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Management in a COVID-19 world 

COVID-19 has affected all kinds of industries … and real estate has certainly felt the blows. 

Everybody is figuring out how to reinvent themselves and reinvent their businesses. 

Real estate is at its base a brick and mortar business. You don’t have virtual real estate. People go in and they live somewhere. 

For the last few weeks, we have been talking about the various ripple effects of what has happened. When your tenant is suddenly unemployed and can’t pay rent, you can’t pay your mortgage servicer … and they can’t pay the underlying investor. 

So, today we’re talking about how investors like YOU can manage your properties and portfolios in a COVID-19 world. 

We’re talking with someone who has got a big, big portfolio and lots of people he works with … but he also knows how to be proactive in a crisis. 

What apartment investors need to know

We call Brad Sumrok “The Apartment King.” He is a gentleman and no stranger to the ups and downs of real estate.

“Obviously, none of us have been through a crisis like this before, but as an apartment investor since 2002, I not only survived the 2008 depression, but I thrived during that time,” Brad says.

Brad says he implements a strategy of “winterizing” his portfolio … and he teaches his students to do the same.

“This is what we call an economic winter, so it’s important to winterize your portfolio,” Brad says.

There are specific actions that apartment investors need to be taking in the midst of the coronavirus storm. Ideally you do these things while the sun is still shining … but if you didn’t, it’s not too late.

The vast majority of Brad and his students’ deals have these Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loans. As it stands, those people have 120 days during which they cannot provide notice to vacate for nonpayment of rent.

The good news is that these moratoriums don’t allow a resident to break the lease. They don’t allow the resident to never pay the rent. They simply have to pay later if they can’t pay now.

The reality is that most tenants in B and C class properties don’t have several months’ worth of savings set aside.

So, owners need to be in contact with their managers, and managers need to be in contact with the tenants.

“I’m having biweekly calls with my management companies and frequent emails just checking in on collections. We’ve been talking about strategies to preserve capital,” Brad says.

Those strategies include suspending investor distributions, capital improvements, and value added upgrades.

Leasing has also gone from physical tours to virtual tours … which Brad says may have its advantages.

“I think as we come out of this and move forward, we are all going to be looking at how to do online business even better,” Brad says.

Brad and his team have also been proactive in providing notice to their tenants on what to do if their income has been impacted.

This includes informing them of the resources they can get under the Cares Act, how to get government assistance, and when they should be expecting stimulus checks.

“We want to position ourselves as a resource for our residents during this time,” Brad says.

Residents are home more than they ever were before … so it is even more critical that they have a safe, clean place to live.

Managers should also be thinking about how to help residents maintain social distancing in the complex and in common areas like the laundry room.

Navigating mortgages

Agency lenders, primarily Fannie and Freddie, came out with guidance on what is being known as forbearance.

Forbearance is a process where the property owner can delay paying the principal and interest. Brad recommends these things be considered as a last resort … but it depends on your situation.

Entering into one of these programs gives you the ability to delay payments. You can get up to 90 days or three months of your payments delayed.

Remember … these payments are not forgiven. You have up to 12 months to pay back the amount you delayed.

And, investors have to apply for these programs. It isn’t guaranteed that you will be accepted to delay your payments.

You’ll have to show a decline in collections. For example, you would need to show your collections for January, February, and March … and then show a substantial drop off in April.

You’ll also need to be in a position where you have no positive cashflow. And, you’ll have to agree not to evict residents until you pay all of the money back.

Communicating with investors

Brad suggests sending out weekly updates to your investors. Be open and transparent.

“I will say that there is always going to be that one out of a hundred investor that is going to be really upset that they aren’t getting distributions right now,” Brad says. “There isn’t a lot you can do about that.”

But outside of those few individuals, Brad says everybody really understands that this is temporary to keep things running until we start to come out of this crisis.

For more on how to manage properties and portfolios during the COVID-19 crisis … listen in to the full episode!


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Mark Victor Hansen on How Big Thinking Leads to Big Results

As you look over your portfolio remember … the MOST important asset that you manage is your mind. 

Our minds are the source of all our best ideas … our dreams, our plans, our actions, and our results. 

Today we’re talking to the world’s biggest-selling author in history … and he is revealing how and why to train your brain to think BIGGER. 

Because Mark Victor Hansen knows … big thinking leads to big results. 

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, hear from:

  • Your big thinking host, Robert Helms
  • His pea-brained co-host, Russell Gray
  • Biggest-selling author in history, Mark Victor Hansen

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Your mind matters

Today we’ve got an incredible guest that’s going to challenge you to think big … and if there ever were a time when you needed to empower your amazing mind … it’s right now!

We say it all the time … how you think and what you believe affects what you do. And what you do affects the results you produce. 

Every day, the world is going to give you things to freak out about … and if you let that get inside your heart and mind, then it’s going to affect the decisions you make. 

You’re only going to see doom and gloom. You’re not going to see the flip side of all of that, which is opportunity. 

There have been people who have both failed spectacularly and have been ruined forever and people who have failed spectacularly and have bounced back. 

Then there are the people that have managed to not only survive those things, but thrive through them. 

So, what’s different?

Obviously it wasn’t the circumstances, because we are all being hit with the same situation. The difference is what’s between your ears … and the decisions you make with the resources you have. 

It all starts in your head. 

Dreams don’t have deadlines

Mark Victor Hansen is one of the biggest best-selling authors in the world. He has written hundreds of books and sold millions of copies. He’s the founder of Chicken Soup for the Soul. 

And Mark has things to say to those of us that can be our own worst enemy. 

“You got to hang out with other people that are doing bigger, better, more extraordinary things than you are,” Mark says. 

You can’t control the timing of everything … but luckily we live in a pretty amazing time in terms of technology. 

Technology creates fundamental abundance. You have access to the best and the brightest ideas at your fingertips. 

That means you can fill your head with crisis and despair … or you can listen to positive things that build you up, thrill you, and encourage epic experiences. 

Mark also encourages people to think long term. What is your big goal? Once you set it, your mind will focus in and start to go to work. 

Dreams don’t have deadlines … so find something that you want to do with your whole heart, mind, and soul and go do it!

“If you go for excellence, the money will show up,” Mark says. 

But remember … you don’t get in life what you deserve. You get in life what you ask for. 

Mark shares the story of wanting his own bicycle … so he decided to sell greeting cards to raise the money. 

“I’d go up to a neighbor’s house and say, ‘I’m earning my own bicycle. Would you like to invest in one box of Christmas cards or two?’ And because I was taking the initiative to ask, people would buy,” Mark says. 

Lessons from Chicken Soup for the Soul

You may not think of real estate when you first think of Chicken Soup for the Soul … but the two are definitely connected. 

The connection is your mind. As we’ve said before, what you put into your brain affects the way you behave … and what could be better than stories full of joy?

“The principle here for each and every one listening is that the creator is greater than his or her creation,” Mark says. 

Ever since he was little, Mark says he wanted to talk to people about things that mattered. “I wanted to enthusiastically get inside people’s minds and hearts with stories,” he says. 

Mark took that idea and ran with it … but that doesn’t mean he didn’t face uncertainty like we all do. He was simply able to keep his eyes on his big goal and work on the resources he had. 

“There’s unlimited opportunities in America. You just need to find a way to use your talents. Be the best you can be, and have a passionate purpose,” Mark says. 

Even with all that is going on, the world has never been richer than it is right now … and that goes for both dollars and opportunities. 

So, hang around big thinkers … people who can help you solve big problems and aren’t afraid to take things on. 

The size of your thinking determines the size of your results. 

For more from Mark Victor Hansen … listen to the full episode!


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Crisis Investing Lessons — Navigating Uncharted Waters

Crisis is part of the investment game … and while the COVID-19 virus crisis is unlike any we’ve seen in modern memory, it’s not the first … or the last … crisis you’ll face as an investor. 

The good news is that history shows us two things. 

One … the human race will survive. And two … the backside of all busts is a big boom. 

Until the crisis passes, we all need to find a way to survive … physically and financially. 

Today, we’re talking about how lessons learned from the 2008 crisis can be applied to what we face today. We are focusing on how you can not only survive … but also thrive!

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, hear from:

  • Your thriving host, Robert Helms
  • His surviving co-host, Russell Gray

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Think and do

With so much going on in the world today, it is easy to get overwhelmed. 

Today, we’re talking about how to manage life when you find yourself in uncharted waters AND what lessons learned from previous crises can do for us in our current situation. 

We’re not here to tell you what is right and what is wrong. We’re here to talk about the facts and our own experiences. 

We haven’t seen everything … but we’ve seen a ton. We don’t know all the answers … but we have gotten pretty good at asking the right questions. 

One of our favorite sayings is, “Think and do is better than wait and see.” 

When there’s a crisis, the tendency is often to hunker down and wait to see what happens. But waiting and seeing has economic consequences. 

The big question now is …  what should we be thinking about?

Understanding what is happening in the market

Calmer heads always prevail. 

As real estate investors, we have a huge advantage. Markets like the stock market … or even the metals market … move instantly. That’s not true with the real estate market. 

If you look at what has happened in the stock market, with equity prices, and in bonds compared to what has happened in real estate … you’ll see a drastic difference. 

People who invest in stocks are seeing a market drop that appears already worse than the Great Depression. But your mortgage or your rent haven’t changed. 

That means that the person on the other end … the landlord or mortgage holder … their income hasn’t changed either. 

Now, that doesn’t mean it won’t. But the difference between now and 2008 is that in 2008, lenders were not ready to negotiate. They couldn’t see the ripple effect that would go through the financial system. 

But today, the Fed clearly sees it. Their reaction tells you they are bringing out the big guns early … and lenders are already beginning to contact people about ways to work things out. 

Even with all this intervention, there is still a chance that real estate investors will run into a cash flow problem … but the advantage is that real estate moves slower. You have more time to react now to future possibilities. 

Remember, the stock market doesn’t really reflect what’s going on in the economy. Stock prices are reacting to an anticipated slow down of corporate profits. 

There is plenty of cash out there. That’s not the problem. The problem is that it isn’t flowing. 

We’re basically watching an economic heart attack take place. It doesn’t matter what the blood volume is. The concern is that the blood isn’t flowing. 

So, you have to look at what is happening right now and make adjustments. Now isn’t the time to be a deer in the headlights investor. Now is the time to think and do. 

Making smart choices for your portfolio

We think that everybody listening in is going to want to own more real estate 10 years from now than they own today. 

Some of you may see opportunities … but you don’t have enough resources to take advantage. 

You can see bargains … quality assets going on sale. What do you do?

That’s why we are big proponents of syndication. 

We’re hearing on the street already that lenders are beginning to back off on their lending. If that is the case, it’s going to be a resurrection of private equity. 

When money goes looking for a safe haven after a nauseating ride on the Wall Street roller coaster … it often ends up in real estate. 

These investors are either on the equity side buying into real estate deals or on the debt side buying private mortgages and getting the yields. 

You have to be smart … but there is going to be a lot of money coming into real estate because of what’s happening. 

If you’re well-positioned and you underwrote your property correctly and you have a good lending partner, you’ll probably be ok. 

If you didn’t … well, there are going to be people who have to give up some real estate. 

If you’re in a good position, syndication can be a great way to get you ready to buy when those who need to sell make their move. 

And don’t forget that this doesn’t apply to just real estate. Real assets like metals and oil will have good deals, too. 

One of the biggest lessons we gleaned from 2008 is to keep your finger on the pulse of your markets and niches. 

Wherever you are in the world, whatever niche you’re in, whatever market you’re in … lean on your tribe. Enhance your participation in whatever forums or virtual meetups you have the opportunity to be part of. 

The closer you get to the front lines … the more real-time your information is … and the better you will be able to make decisions. 

For more lessons learned on investing during a crisis … listen in to the full episode!

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Build-to-Rent Real Estate — Another Look at a Hot Concept

What do you do when a housing shortage meets a shortage of home buyers? 

It’s real estate investors to the rescue! Developers are finding big opportunities building homes to cater to the needs of landlords. 

We’re talking with two developers who are taking the hot concept of build-to-rent to new heights. 

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, hear from:

    • Your informative host, Robert Helms
    • His inquisitive co-host, Russell Gray
    • CEO of Sage Oak Assisted Living, Loe Hornbuckle
    • Loe’s partner and construction developer, Austin Good

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A new approach to rental property 

We’re talking about a niche that is getting hotter and hotter by the minute. It’s something that lots of people can participate in … build-to-rent. 

Traditionally, builders have been buying land, building, and then selling what they built. 

But more and more, there is the idea of building the end product not for someone to buy and use … but for someone to rent. 

Most renters are looking at older properties … single family houses, apartments, townhouses … all already up and running and built for owner occupants. 

They may not be ideal as a rental for either the tenant or the landlord, but they work fine. Now, these properties are being built with the tenant specifically in mind instead.

We read a lot about the millennials and their debt load and inability to purchase houses. That means more people renting their homes and a giant demographic of young people that need a place to live. 

On the flip side, you’ve got a lot of interest in real estate as an asset class for the first time … so there is opportunity. 

Big benefits in build-to-rent projects

We’re talking to two men who have found the secret sauce in build-to-rent properties … Loe Hornbuckle and Austin Good. 

Austin started out as a real estate agent and quickly began flipping single family rental properties. But when inventory started to tighten he thought, “Maybe we should just go in, buy land, develop it, and build to rent.”

Doing so meant you could control the entire process a lot better and easier. “And as we did that, we found a lot of demand from investors,” Austin says. 

Some of the benefits of the build-to-rent scene is that investors are usually ready to close right away. You don’t have to wait things out depending on the market as much as a traditional developer. 

Physically, there are ways to optimize properties with renters in mind as well. 

“The biggest differences come down to durability of certain goods. We’ve gotten rid of carpet altogether in all of our deals because LVT flooring is more durable for a rental market,” Austin says. 

Austin also says that they design the homes with the investor’s exit strategy in mind. 

Right now, these properties will be used as rentals … but in 10 years the investor may want to sell to an owner occupant. It all depends on how the market changes. 

On that note, build-to-rent as a niche is fairly recession resistant. 

“These types of properties are a Class-A product that can rent for a Class-B price. You also don’t have to compete in the amenities space like apartment buildings,” Loe says. 

Currently, Austin and Loe build a combination of duplexes and townhomes … so people treat them as single family residences and don’t expect all the extras of an apartment complex. 

The other big pull for this niche, Loe says, are the tax advantages. 

When you sell a product, you’re being taxed. But build-to-rent has the advantage of the government realizing you are building affordable, clean, safe housing, so it offers many breaks and cuts to help you out. 

Then, you have the low turnover rate to consider. The two biggest expenses in renting are turnover and vacancy. If you can minimize those things … you’re in great shape. 

The tenants that come into build-to-rent properties treat them like they are their own, and they become attached and stick around. 

A big appeal of these build-to-rent properties right now is that they give the tenant the chance to rent something that is brand new or only a year or two old. 

Compared to living in a 25-year-old property … new is very appealing. 

In short, build-to-rent is a long-term asset with multiple exit strategies and multiple uses. 

Syndication in build-to-rent

Efficiencies are important when you’re undertaking a large project … and that’s exactly what Loe and Austin are doing. 

Their current project in Denton, Texas, has almost 90 units … which offers opportunities for a streamlined workflow and other efficiencies that mean more profit for builders and a better deal for investors. 

They also have a unique approach to ownership. Instead of selling individual units, they are collectively owning them. 

Many of Loe and Austin’s current projects are in Opportunity Zones. One aspect of investing in these areas is you have to hold the property for 10 years to get the maximum tax benefit. 

For many investors, investing in an opportunity zone is solely for the tax benefit … and with build-to-rent style investments, there are many additional bonuses for passive investors that want to get involved. 

Passive investors can see the tax advantage and return they want and are willing to hold the property for an extended amount of time. 

That’s why Loe and Austin focus on real estate syndication. Individual owners are foregone in favor of a leasing agent and maintenance staff that oversee the project. 

To learn more about syndicating in the build-to-rent niche … listen in to the full episode!

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Podcast: Build-to-Rent Real Estate – Another Look at a Hot Concept

When a shortage of housing converges with a shortage of home buyers … it’s real estate investors to the rescue!

Developers large and small are realizing there’s a big opportunity in building homes to cater to the needs of landlords.

In this episode, we visit with two developers who’ve put a new twist on the build-to-rent concept.

So listen in as take another look at the hot concept of build-to rent.


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