Ask The Guys – Choosing Markets, Tracking Trends and Calculating Cash-Flow

It’s a fan favorite … another edition of Ask The Guy for this episode of  The Real Estate Guys radio show! 

We take on lots of great questions from our fabulous audience, including how to choose a good real estate market … which important trends to track and how … one of the most important jobs of any real estate investor: calculating cash flow … and MANY more! 

Just remember, The Real Estate Guys don’t give advice… what we do is give you ideas and information and you then will sit down with professionals so you can get specific advice for your market. 

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ radio show, hear from:

  • Your Know-It-All Host, Robert Helms
  • His Know-Nothing Co-Host, Russell Gray

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What Counts As Positive Cash Flow? 

Our first question comes from Frank in Winkler, Manitoba, Canada … Frank wants to know, if someone takes a mortgage out on an investment property using current home equity and the investment property just barely covers the expenses, is this positive cash flow? 

One of the basic understandings of investing in real estate is the basic income formula … where does the cash flow come from? You have income, which is pretty easy to calculate if you have a single-family home … and then you have expenses.

We say there are two sides: the math of being the owner and the math of the lender. In the United States … you can have a little negative cash flow on paper, and if you’re short, you can bring some of your own personal income to bear if you choose. 

The main point is … you need to make sure you have a comprehensive budget and go in with your eyes wide open. Owners should be careful when working with a negative cash flow … you might want to build that into your capitalization budget to have reserves to carry you until you can get it to where it needs to be.

Buying a Property in a Different State

The next question is from Mike in East Grand Fork, Minnesota. Mike says he owns three single-family homes free and clear and wants to buy a property in Arizona for a warm weather escape. He says he pulls in $2,000 a month in profit after expenses and is looking for any strategies.

First thing is … why would anyone ever sell a property that was putting $2,000 a month in their pocket? 

And the answer is, because you can re-allocate that to property or properties that might pull $2,500 or $3,000 or $5,000 a month in profit or you can move to a market you like better!

Assuming the owner is keeping the first three properties and likes the market… the obvious thing is to put a loan on them… take advantage of today’s low-interest rates… and redirect some of that $2,000 a month cash flow into what would be a down payment for the Arizona property.

The bottom line is … get together with your mortgage professional, find out exactly what loan programs are available to you based on your credit score, your balance sheet, the amount of equity you have in the properties where they’re located, and make sure this is somebody that can help you in both Minnesota and in Arizona.

Investing in Property in Another Country

Sean in Lima, Peru, says he and his wife are living there as teachers and plan to buy a home there, live it for several years, then rent it out as a long-term investment when they return home to New York or another destination. They secured a loan from a local bank in Peru, however, the interest rates are much higher than in the U.S. 

The short answer is … there’s nowhere on earth where we have found financing as favorable as in the United States of America.

Many people who buy in another country often turn to the ability to borrow on property in the U.S. and use those proceeds to buy a property in other places. That’s method #1. 

Method #2 … borrow locally. One of the reasons is that that loan and that creditor have nothing to do with U.S. credit or your tax returns and so often those loans are made locally by local banks who invest in the property … so it’s a lot less cumbersome.

There’s a whole other side to investing internationally … there’s the basis of law in the country, what property rights look like… what their expenses are … whether countries share a tax treaty. Just consider all those factors. 

Know Market Trends 

These next two questions are related. 

Victor in Ocala, Florida, wants to know how to pick a real estate market to invest in, and Al, from Richmond, British Columbia, Canada, wants to know … what drives real estate trends and what resources can help us follow the real estate trends globally? 

The trend is your friend. You need to understand what trends are in real estate.

Markets vary all across the world … so the big picture on finding market trends and discovering a great real estate market has to do with the suitability of the property, the viability of the income stream, and the age-old supply and demand question.

All things being equal … rents are strong where there is demand for people to live in places, and so as investors, we’re looking for places that have strong economies … favorable tenant landlord law … and good market metrics. 

Demand is based on people wanting to live there and their businesses wanting to live there. Supply is building … the ability to build … the ability of the marketplace to expand supply. 

Places like Manhattan and San Francisco can’t increase supply … so prices only have one way to go. 

For 23 years on the show we’ve said … live where you want to live and invest where the numbers make sense. 

If you’re going to invest somewhere other than where you live … then you do need to study the market and understand the direction.

A market could be really great and have a lot of jobs, but if the jobs are all tied to one or two employers or industries, that could be a risk. 

Our premise is that you can’t really pay attention to more than about a half a dozen real estate markets … maybe 8 or 10 if you’re a full-time investor.

You need to know your markets on a granular level as real estate investors. 

Ratio of precious metals in the portfolio

These two questions from different listeners are on the same topic. 

Jason asks, what should be the ratio between how much silver, gold, and income property one has? And Gary from Idaho Falls, Idaho, wants to know about what percentage of an investment portfolio should be in precious metals? 

We believe that before you’re a real estate investor, you’re an investor, and you better understand that “compared to what” factor. 

If you approach the idea that you invest in real estate to make money …  and you assume that those are dollars … then you need to know something about dollars and currency. 

If you really understand what money is, you’ll recognize that for thousands of years, gold and silver have been money … and it’s only been since 1971 that gold and silver have not been money. 

Gold and silver don’t make you money as much as they preserve your purchasing power, so that’s how they all fit together. 

It depends on what you’re trying to do … there is no magic formula. It’s more important that you understand what the role of these different things are in your portfolio.

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Podcast: Ask The Guys – Choosing Markets, Tracking Trends and Calculating Cash-Flow

We take on lots of great questions from our fabulous audience, including how to choose a good real estate market … which important trends to track and how … and one of the most important jobs of any real estate investor, calculating cash-flow … and MANY more!

So tune in for another exhilarating edition of Ask The Guys!


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Ask The Guys — Smart Moves with Equity, Liquidity, and Debt

It’s time for Ask The Guys … the episode where you ask and we answer!

People are facing perilous times and wondering what to do to prepare.

Today, we’re tackling questions about tapping equity while it’s still there, getting liquid just in case, and dealing with debt decisions in an uncertain economy … and MORE!

This edition is all about making smart moves in a crazy world. 

But remember … we offer commentary, education, and resources … not advice. 

Always consult with tax or legal professionals before making any investment decisions. 

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, hear from:

  • Your equitable host, Robert Helms
  • His indebted co-host, Russell Gray

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What is up with debt?

Our first question comes from Tim in Grand Haven, Michigan. He is currently learning all he can to switch from investing companies to investing in rental properties. 

But … Tim wants to know, what is up with debt? “I keep hearing and reading how it can be used for good,” he says. 

How can the upside of debt outweigh the downside of the risk that it brings?

This is a great question because it is a fundamental principle of real estate investing. One of real estate’s great benefits is leverage … the fact that we can use debts. 

First, there’s nothing wrong with being debt-averse. When you are talking about consumer debt … paying interest out of the sweat of your own back … then, yes, you don’t want to be in debt. 

You only want to be in debt when there’s a positive arbitrage … meaning that you are going to make money on the borrowed money. 

The reason this is so important today is that we’re in an inflationary environment … where inflation is the cause of your equity growth on your property, and you aren’t REALLY making progress. 

The only way to make progress is to grow faster than inflation. Debt allows you to do that. 

The last reason to use debt is when you have equity in the property … it’s exposed to predators and creditors, and there’s no way to shelter or hide it. Debt can actually help with asset protection. 

We will point out to Tim … and to all of you … that interest rates are at record lows, so your borrowing power is incredible right now. That’s another reason to consider debt. 

To be clear, we’re not here to talk you into going into debt. We know that people that invest in real estate with cash, and they do just fine. 

But, leverage can magnify returns. 

Where to go for equity

Kenny from Indio, California, wants to know if it’s better to do a takeout cash loan from his home or from a rental property. He has equity in both. 

If you have a lot of equity in the home you live in and you have a lot of equity in your rental home, you could go with either. 

But, there are strategic reasons why one or the other makes sense for your situation. 

It’s going to be cheaper to get equity out of your home … it’s not better so much in terms of cost but in terms of risk. 

When you put more debt in your home, you’re taking a risk … one that is going to be predicated on what you do with the proceeds. 

If you invest the proceeds into something that will provide enough cash flow to cover the cost of acquisition and make a profit, it might make some sense. 

We are personally big fans of converting equity into precious metals … but whatever you choose to do, you want to be more conservative with whatever you do in respect to your own home. 

For the rental property, you won’t be able to get as high a loan to value … meaning you won’t have access to as much of the equity. It’s going to cost you a little bit more. 

Like your own home, the risk depends on what you’re doing with the loan proceeds. 

Ultimately, you just need to take a look at the cost of pulling out equity, what you’re going to do with the money, and how secure you are in the rest of your portfolio, balance sheet, and cash flow. 

Getting liquid

Randy in Reinholds, Pennsylvania, has been hearing a lot about getting liquid by tapping equity, credit lines, or selling marginal assets. 

But, he wants to know how to balance the need for cash versus the likelihood of a falling dollar eroding your cash purchasing power. And he is wondering what other liquid assets … besides precious metals … where we would look to park dollars. 

There’s an old saying that the bank will never loan you money when you need it … but when you don’t need it, they are willing to loan you a ton. 

It often does work that way. 

If we’re sailing into headwinds, we want to have some cash. But if we know that the value of every dollar in our wallet is going down steadily over time … like it has been for over a hundred years, then we don’t want to hang on to too many dollars. 

Our good friend Robert Kiyosaki says, “Cash is trash.” 

It’s not that he doesn’t LIKE the things money will do for him. It’s that when you HOLD your money in liquid cash form, it virtually goes down in value all the time. 

Precious metals can be a great place to hedge up some of your wealth. But remember … metals don’t really change their value. 

When you see the price of gold go up … it means the value of the dollar has gone down. 

There are reasons to have cash where you won’t lose all the value as the dollar continues to erode … like real estate. 

If you’re aggregating cash in anticipation of real estate prices falling, then really, in terms of your purchasing power, your dollar is going up in value. 

We also like to have both cash in the bank and out of the bank. Keeping your cash in the bank under the $250,000 limit will also protect you during a crisis. 

Another relatively liquid asset to park dollars is an apartment building … because every month an apartment building converts that month into dollars. 

And guess what? As the dollar erodes, the value of rent goes up … giving you more cash flow. 

The demand for apartment buildings … more than single-family homes, more than almost any real estate … has been so strong that if you were willing to list it at anywhere near market, you could get a fast sale. 

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Podcast: Ask The Guys – Smart Moves with Equity, Liquidity and Debt

People are paying attention to these perilous times and wondering what to do to prepare.

In this edition of Ask The Guys, we tackle questions about tapping equity while it’s still there, getting liquid just in case, and dealing with debt decisions in an uncertain economy … and a whole lot more!

So tune in as we talk making smart moves with equity, liquidity and debt in a crazy world.


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Ask The Guys — Scaling Up, Credit Lines, and Pandemic Prepping

It’s time for Ask The Guys … the episode where you ask and we answer!

This edition we are tackling topics from how to use credit lines strategically BEFORE they disappear to how to prepare NOW for the investment problems … and opportunities likely to emerge from COVID-19 … and more!

But remember … we offer commentary, education, and resources … not advice. 

Always consult with tax or legal professionals before making any investment decisions. 

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  • His know-nothing co-host, Russell Gray

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Where to get liquidity from your balance sheet

Our first question comes from Alicia in Woodstock, Georgia. 

She says, “Hey guys, I want to have liquidity to buy real estate, but I’m not sure where to pull the money from.”

Alicia says she has a homestead and a rental that are both paid off. She also has a 401K. She wants to know if she should convert the 401K into a self-directed account and take money from there. 

First, Alicia is thinking the right way. If you want to acquire more real estate, you have to have more money. 

The good news is that someone like Alicia already has idle equity sitting around waiting to be worked with. 

The cheapest money out there is mortgage money. It’s very inexpensive and long-term … so the payment and the cash flow is really easy to manage. 

Someone like Alicia could potentially borrow against her paid off rental property … and the 401K is also an option. 

But, if you roll that 401K over into a self-directed account, you’ll want to talk to your tax professional first to see if you will end up facing some type of a penalty. 

Then, the only other way to go about getting money that gives income from your own balance sheet is to think about raising money from someone else’s balance sheet. 

There are people out there who have money … but they don’t have access to deals, and they don’t have the hustle. 

When to buy a house

Don is looking to buy a house and wants to know when he should be buying. 

“Prices are still high,” he says, “and judging from past market crashes, should we wait maybe two months to buy at a lower price?”

When you’re buying a residence to live in, market timing means very little. If you’re looking for an investment property, you make different decisions than you would for a home you want to live in. 

Your first priority should be finding a home that is safe, clean, affordable, and in a good neighborhood. If you’re patient, some good deals will come. 

Finding off-market deals

DC from Edinburg, Texas, says, “Due to the pandemic, people are going to be selling their homes at discounted prices. How do I find these deals? I want to get some off-market deals.”

The premise that there will be deals to find is fairly sound … and the answer as to how to find them is simple … relationships. 

You won’t find much success cold-calling or knocking doors. Instead, find someone who already has the pulse on that part of the market and form a relationship with them. 

Build a brand of someone who people want to do business with. Don’t just throw lowball offers out there and see what happens. That will become your reputation. 

And don’t jump at the very first thing you see unless it happens to be fantastic. If you build the right relationships, you’re going to find some amazing deals. 

Scaling up your investments

John in Round Lake, Illinois, is a fledgling investor looking to scale up. 

“I can’t help but have some apprehension about jumping from small things to a big thing,” John says. “How can I make sure I don’t mess up?”

Many folks make this same shift that John is looking at … and they do it for different reasons. 

Often, it’s because they get to the point where the economics of scale efficiencies, headaches, and management of single-family houses becomes a lot for them. So, many make the jump over to multifamily. 

There are many benefits to this approach. One is that once your portfolio reaches a certain size, you can get into non-recourse financing. 

This means your lender has recourse against the property, but not you personally. 

And, with bigger properties, you typically don’t buy all by yourself. You do it with partners or syndication … and those people bring support and power to the deal. 

If things were to get dicey, these factors combine to make apartment investing actually less risky than going it alone in single-family homes. 

And, one of the beautiful things about syndication is that anything you’re lacking … including experience … you can go aggregate by finding other people who need what you bring to the table. 

A query on credit lines

Mark in Ohio has a question about credit lines. 

“I have two large lines of credit, and I’m currently not using either,” he says. “Should I draw the entire amount out now, or should I wait a bit longer?”

On the one hand, John thinks it would be a shame to pay interest on money he doesn’t need at the moment. But … he is concerned that those lines of credit could freeze up in the near future. 

Short answer … we would draw them out completely. 

You see a lot of big corporations doing this right now. Ford Motor Company famously did that going into the 2008 crisis … and unlike GM, Ford didn’t need a bailout. 

Banks are nervous. The Fed is acting pretty nervous. So, if you have access to credit lines and equity … we would put the two together and get liquid. 

Having liquidity is good insurance. 

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Podcast: Ask The Guys – Scaling Up, Credit Lines, and Pandemic Prepping

Another exhilarating edition of Ask The Guys … your great questions and our questionable answers.

This time, we tackle topics about going from tiny to mighty … how to use credit lines strategically BEFORE they disappear …. how to prepare NOW for the investment problems and opportunities likely to emerge from the COVID-19 pandemic … and MORE!


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Ask The Guys — Pandemic Landlording, Equity Management, and More

It’s time for Ask The Guys … the episode where you ask, and we answer!

We’re tackling timely topics … like how to manage property and portfolios during the coronavirus pandemic … and more!

Remember … we aren’t tax advisors or legal professionals. We give ideas and information … NOT advice. 

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, hear from:

  • Your doctor of discussion and host, Robert Helms
  • His nurse of knowledge and co-host, Russell Gray

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Using your mortgage as a tool

Our first question comes from Suzanne in Sonora, California. 

She says, “Hey guys, I’m 56 years old. I have a duplex valued around $270K with $210K of equity. I read Rich Dad, Poor Dad, and I’ve used equity lines in the past to buy other properties, but I’m at a knowledge impasse.”

Suzanne says her problem has to do with mortgage payments. If she takes out more equity lines to buy more properties, eventually all her profits are spent on making loan payments. 

Is she doing something wrong?

Well, Suzanne, you’re really not doing anything wrong. 

A mortgage is a tool. But like any tool, it has to be used for the right job, and it has to be used correctly. 

The obvious risk here is that you take equity out of a property and then you finance it using short-term financing … and then you make a long-term investment. 

So, a basic rule of thumb is … don’t borrow short to invest or lend long unless you are a bank. Otherwise, you can end up with a cash flow problem. 

The other thing to keep in mind is the state of the market. When you’re playing this game at the top of a market, when the cap rates are very low, the cash flows on new properties are very low. 

The danger you run is that if the economy takes a downturn … like we are experiencing right now … rents go down, and you end up with negative cash flow and negative equity. 

So, the idea is that when you pull equity out, you want to lock in long-term, permanent financing. 

The other secret to doing this is what we call arbitrage … purchasing a reliable stream of cash flow that will take care of making the payments and providing you a positive net result. 

If all your payments are being used to make equity payments, then you probably haven’t made the smartest investment with the equity you extracted. 

The real key here is to borrow long and invest shorter. Focus on the quality and durability of the income and the recourse. 

Multifamily or industrial warehouses?

John in Fargo, North Dakota, wants to know if we had the opportunity to invest in syndicated deals in the upper Midwest, the Dakotas, or Minnesota in new construction multifamily or new construction industrial warehouses … which would we lean toward?

Well, we’re not going to give you advice on what to do … we don’t give advice. But it is a fair question. 

New construction multifamily is a bread and butter product where there are great loans available and an absolute need that rarely goes away.

New construction industrial warehouses are places that store stuff we need. 

Here are a few things to look at as you make your decision. 

First of all, the market is going to matter a ton … so what is the current supply? What’s the current demand? What trends are happening that are going to influence the market?

For example, if a trend is that more loans are available at lower prices, then that means people that were multifamily tenants might become buyers. 

On the other hand, if you see that certain businesses are withering and certain businesses are thriving under something like COVID-19, does that mean there will be more or less demand for warehouses?

All things being equal, some of the safest investments are in housing because people need a roof over their head. 

And like any syndication deal … the team is a big factor. Make sure the people you are partnering with know what they are doing. 

What to do with laid-off tenants

John in Helena, Montana, says, “Due to recent events, I have a couple of laid-off tenants who have done the right thing and reached out to say they will struggle making rent. Do you have any creative ideas to keep me from being the last bill paid?”

Creativity is really part of the big picture here. 

All tenants have decisions to make every day about where they put their money … and most tenants aren’t sitting on months and months of savings. 

The average tenant probably has less than a few weeks of savings. 

We’ve had several multi unit buildings over the years, and we always had a tenant who was our boots on the ground and eyes on the street. 

We’d say, “If you’ll do some things like just pay attention and be available and take the trash to the curb, we’ll lower your rent by a couple hundred bucks.”

It’s not free rent like an apartment manager … but it’s a nice discount. 

So, if you have someone who can’t pay you in dollars … you don’t want to forgo the rent … but you can practice some forbearance. 

Find other ways for them to contribute to your investment. Try cutting rent to a third for now and they can owe the rest later. 

You absolutely want to have an open dialogue … especially with people who were proactive and came to you with an open dialogue. 

This is a great opportunity to build your brand … to build a reputation as the kind of landlord people want to rent from. 

You also have to think of the other side of the equation, because you have your own mortgage payments and taxes to take care of. Disrupted rents affect you too. 

Be very aware of what your options are with your specific lender in terms of any relief YOU might get. 

Remember, everybody is going through this. There seems to be an unprecedented level of community cooperation. Be proactive with your lender and other people you’re going to need to pay. 

It’s also smart to talk to your attorney so that whatever arrangement you come to with your tenant can be binding. 

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Ask the Guys — Equity Sharing, Self-Directed IRAs, and Gold

It’s time for Ask The Guys … the episode where you ask, and we answer!

In this episode, we have another fantastic collection of questions from our fabulous listeners. 

We’re taking on equity sharing, self-directed IRAs, gold, and MORE!

Remember … we aren’t tax advisors or legal professionals. We give ideas and information … NOT advice. 

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  • Your wise host, Robert Helms
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Where to begin in real estate

Our first question comes from Lloyd in Canton, Georgia. His dream is to own two to three homes that he can rent out … but he wants to know where he should begin and what to watch out for. 

The whole idea of having rental homes is so you can get your money to work instead of you. 

Some people who buy single family homes like to do the work … fix them up, make them nicer, improve them, and then rent or sell them. But many people just want to sit back and let money make money. 

Where you start depends on your personal investment philosophy … who you are as an investor, what real estate you want to do, and how involved you want to be. 

You also want to think about what your investor resources are. There are seven we highlight … cash, cash flow, equity, credit, time, talent, and relationships. 

As often as possible, put yourself in an environment where you will be around more experienced real estate investors and ask questions. Learning from their experience will help you make decisions for your experience. 

One of the first things you want to do is meet with a mortgage professional as quickly as you can. Don’t wait until you think you are ready to invest. 

It can take up to two years to really prepare your financials so you can borrow effectively. Find out how to manage your credit score and your documentable income. 

While you are doing all of that, you can work on aggregating a down payment, shop for markets, and building a team. 

Looking to do real estate full time 

Blake in Gretna, Louisiana, says, “Right now I have a trade job where I’ll currently be making about $80,000 a year. How can I invest this money properly in real estate so I can eventually do that full time?”

Rule number one is to live below your means. Live as frugally as possible until you can get a stake in the game. You don’t need a ton of money to do that. 

If you’re going to leverage at 20 percent down and 80 percent loan to value … lots of great rental properties sell for $60K to $100K. 

Whatever your situation, start where you are and with what you have. Get a mortgage professional … and start ratcheting up your credit score. 

You’ll also want to learn what debt-to-income ratios are. 

If you really feel like you want to be a professional real estate investor, then recognize that your current job is a means to an end. 

And, as we said before, start surrounding yourself with people who are already doing what you want to do. 

Put a lot of emphasis on putting together a good team. The most important thing you build is business relationships. 

Getting familiar with equity sharing 

Jacqueline in Punta Gorda, Florida, is interested in learning more about equity sharing. 

First, the basic premise of equity sharing is that you have two parties who are both involved in a transaction but who want different things out of the transaction. 

The classic equity sharing situation looks like this. 

You have a young couple. They’re making good money. They could afford to make a house payment, but they haven’t saved up the 20 percent necessary for a down payment. 

So, they go to somebody … family, friends, parents, or even someone non-related … who brings in part or all of the down payment. 

One person puts up the money. The other person makes the payments. Then, you split the equity in the future. 

Typically you would want both those parties to be on the title, and you’d work with a lending professional to follow particular guidelines. 

Equity sharing is common in single family homes, but you can equity share any type of property you want. 

Like any deal, before you have a deal in place, you’ll want to visit with a mortgage professional. 

You’d also be smart to get a real estate attorney in the specific jurisdiction that you’re going to be transacting in and talk about legal options and considerations as well. 

Depending on the situation, you may not want to be on the title or publicly recorded on the deed. There are various reasons for that approach … specifically with taxes. 

So, it’s smart to talk to a tax advisor as well. 

The low-down on self-directed IRAs

Carolina in San Dimas, California, says that she and her husband want to open a self-directed IRA so they can invest in real estate. But she doesn’t know where to start. 

There are several different ways to do this … and it can be a little complicated … but we’ll try to give a decent overview. 

In the tax code, there are provisions that allow you to accumulate wealth for the long term. You either get benefits when you put it in or as you’re building it and when you pull it out. 

Really, all IRAs are self-directed. All self-directed means is that you can invest in anything you want to that isn’t specifically prohibited by the IRS. 

The prohibited list is pretty short … less than 10 things. 

One of the challenging things with IRAs is that when you use leverage, you gain a benefit inside your IRA from something outside your IRA, which is the debt. 

That creates a tax issue if you’re not aware of it. So, you want to make sure you understand UBIT … unearned business income tax. Talk to your IRA provider about that. 

And since most people want to use debt when they use real estate, that’s really what you want to focus your learning on. 

Starting to invest in gold

Brendan in Johns Creek, Georgia, has a question about gold. 

“I just listened to an episode where gold sounds like it is completely liquid, like it can be swapped for currency anywhere in the world,” he says, “but as I research, it sounds like in a lot of precious metals investment you own it but it is stored somewhere else.”

When you go looking on the internet for ideas for investing in gold, you’ll find plenty of propaganda trying to persuade you to invest in a way where you don’t actually own gold. 

On the other hand, you could walk into a gold dealer in your local town and buy a number of gold coins and walk out, and it would be totally private. 

A lot of people who buy gold do it that way for privacy and actual control of their gold. And there isn’t any counterparty risk when the gold is in your physical possession. 

Not to mention that the exact opposite of that transaction happens if you walk in with gold. You’ll walk out with cash. 

Gold is portable and highly liquid. There are always bids on gold. And, we’ve seen the price go up pretty consistently for the last few years.  

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