Live from the 17th Annual Summit at Sea

Ten amazing days … over 200 people … studying, sharing, learning, growing, and partying … that’s the Investor Summit at Sea!

For 17 years, the Summit at Sea has been the highlight of our year … and we’re excited to share a piece of it with YOU.

We’ve gathered some of real estate’s most successful investors, entrepreneurs, niche experts, and thought leaders to share their insights and key takeaways from the 2019 Summit.

Listen in and learn what these pros discovered … and how it could help you make smarter investment decisions.

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, hear from:

  • Your sailing host, Robert Helms
  • His flailing co-host, Russell Gray
  • Author and seasteading expert, Joe Quirk
  • Rich Dad, Poor Dad best-selling author, Robert Kiyosaki
  • The Apartment King, Brad Sumrok
  • Marketing mastermind, Kyle Wilson
  • The Godfather of Real Estate, Bob Helms
  • And SO MANY MORE!

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This is the Investor Summit at Sea

The annual Investor Summit at Sea is always a highlight of our year.

It’s a concentrated amount of time with some of real estate’s smartest people … all from different walks of life, different perspectives, and even different countries.

Every year, we learn to ask better questions … clarify our thinking … and do things differently.

Opportunities like the Summit at Sea are rare. In a short time frame, investors become friends, work out problems, and do some business.

We’d love EVERY one of our listeners to join us on the high seas … but we’d need a bigger boat!

So, we’ve brought together some of our fabulous faculty members to share their insights and key takeaways from the 2019 Summit at Sea.

A first glimpse at seasteading

Joe Quirk was a last minute addition to our faculty this year … and we’re so glad he came.

Joe’s real estate niche is seasteading … that’s right … homesteading the high seas.

It’s a novel idea. Joe says that … considering nearly half the world’s surface is unclaimed by any existing nation state … the technology is at hand to create startup countries on the ocean.

“It’s sort of a Silicon Valley sensibility brought to the problem of governance,” Joe says.

Instead of trying to change things from the inside, you create startups and do things better.

The first seastead has been floating off the coast of Thailand since early 2019 … and living there costs less than the average American home.

Joe and his team are ready to scale up … and scale up quickly. But he needs partners with real estate smarts to make it happen.

“We have marine engineers, economists, scientists, and medical experts. We have almost everyone we need, but we don’t have people that know how to structure and sell these things,” Joe says.

We view seasteading as a fascinating new frontier in real estate … and we’ll have more with Joe in the coming weeks.

Look at deals through a new lens

It’s Robert Kiyosaki’s sixth Summit at Sea … and we couldn’t be happier to welcome him back.

“I come to learn as well as to teach,” Robert says. “The Summit at Sea is basically immersion learning for real estate.”

Our port excursion this year was Grand Cayman. This area has undergone an interesting transition over the last few years.

Typically, people think of Grand Cayman as the place where rich people want to hide their money … but it is so much more!

Robert says he learned that how you look at a deal can really change the opportunities you see.

In the case of Grand Cayman, Robert had always looked at the market from the point of view of an investor … but he learned that sometimes it pays to try looking at a market from a developer’s point of view instead.

Through this lens, he could see that Grand Cayman is becoming a target for families. As the economic gap between rich and poor widens on other islands … crime rates are rising.

But Grand Cayman has the lowest crime rate in the Caribbean.

That fact coupled with high standards of living make it attractive to a new housing demographic … not just people looking for a tax shelter.

“There’s a deal of a lifetime every minute if you can see it,” Robert says.

Expand your team, increase your success

The Apartment King, Brad Sumrok, joins us for his third Summit at Sea.

Brad has made apartments his bread and butter … but that doesn’t mean he is done learning and growing.

“I keep expanding my team every time I’m here,” Brad says.

There’s no better way to grow your team than by spending a week and a half on a ship with 200 other people who specialize in a variety of asset classes.

So much of investment success is leveraging other people’s experience.

Last year, Brad says he connected with our good friend CPA Tom Wheelwright … and this year Tom saved Brad seven figures in taxes!

That’s a take away Brad took directly to the bank … and by surrounding yourself with smart people, you can do the same.

Master your marketing one step at a time

We’ve known Kyle Wilson for many years. He is a familiar face on the Summit at Sea … and always has great ideas for how to better market your real estate business.

“So many people are in the real estate business. They’re good at real estate. They’re good at finding markets and putting together teams, but not always solid in their marketing position,” Kyle says.

It’s easy to overcomplicate marketing. At the end of the day, marketing is simply connecting the dots for your customers.

Kyle says the key for real estate investors is to act in a strategic way. Don’t just throw a bunch of stuff at the wall and hope it sticks.

And remember that so much of real estate investing is built on relationships. Never let what seems like a good tactic get in the way of a good relationship.

Kyle is leaving the Summit with a list of ideas and action items … but cautions investors to take things one step at a time.

“You can’t do it all. Pick the one thing that’s screaming at you that will make the biggest difference and start there,” Kyle says.

A wealth of amazing opportunities

If anyone understands the benefits of an opportunity like the Investor Summit at Sea, it’s the Godfather of Real Estate himself … Bob Helms!

We’ve been hosting these cruise ship conferences for 17 years … and Bob has been with us every time.

With 40 years of real estate experience, Bob has seen amazing changes in the way investors make money and grow their opportunities.

“As I look at the group that is here with us today and the diversity of things they are involved in, I can’t help but have a big grin on my face,” Bob says. “The opportunities out there are amazing.”

Bob says his advice to investors is to educate themselves on different locations and asset classes. Find the niche that is right for you … and start building a winning team!

Get on the advance notice list for next year’s Summit at Sea by visiting our website … and listen in to the full episode to hear from even more experts and ideas from our week on the waves.


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Is THIS the next crisis?

We’re just back from yet another EPIC Investor Summit at Sea™.  If you missed it, be sure to get on the advance notice list for 2020.

It’s hard to describe how transforming and powerful the Summit experience is.  So we won’t.

Instead, today’s focus is on the flip side of the Fed’s flop on interest rates … in context of the #1 thing Robert Kiyosaki told us he’s MOST concerned about.

We recently commented about the Federal Reserve’s abrupt reversal on plans to raise rates and tighten the supply of money (actually, credit … but that’s a whole other discussion).

The short of it is … there’s more air heading into the economic jump house. 

Based on the mostly green lights flashing in Wall Street casinos since then, it looks like the paper traders agree.  Let the good times roll.

Real estate investors care because the flow of money in and out of bonds is what determines interest rates.

When money piles into bonds, it drives interest rates LOWER.

Not surprisingly, as we speak … the 10-year Treasury is yielding about 2.3% … compared to nearly 3.3% less than six months ago.

While a 1% rate change may not seem like much, it’s a 43% decrease in interest expense or income (depending on whether you’re borrower or lender).

So as a borrower, your interest expense is 43% lower.  Obviously, with record government debt and deficits, Uncle Sam needs to keep rates down.

But as a lender (bond investor) you’re also earning 43% less.  And yet, lenders (bond buyers) are lining up to purchase.

That tells us they probably expect rates to fall further and are speculating on the bond price.

But whatever the reason, they’re buying, so bonds are up and yields are down.

As you may already know, lower Treasury yields mean lower mortgage rates.  So this headline was quite predictable …

Mortgage Rates are in a Free Fall with No End in SightWashington Post, 3/21/19

Falling mortgage rates are bullish for real estate values because the same paycheck or net operating income will control a bigger mortgage.

This purchasing power allows buyers to bid up prices … IF they are confident in their incomes, and IF their incomes aren’t being directed towards rising living expenses.

So lower interest rates don’t automatically mean a boom in real estate equity.  But they help.  We’ll probably have more to say about this in the future.

For now, let’s take a look at the other side of falling rates …  the impact on savers and especially pension funds.

Remember, if you’re investing for yield, your income just tanked 43% in only six months.  Unusually low interest rates creates problems for fund managers.

During the Summit, Robert Kiyosaki revealed he’s VERY concerned about the global pension problem.

Low interest rates are only one part of the problem.  A much bigger part is the demographics and faulty model underneath the pension concept.

The net result is there’s a growing disparity between pension assets and liabilities.  And it’s not a good one.

Like Social Security, both public and private pensions worldwide are on a collision course with insolvency … led by the two largest economies, the United States and China.

This problem’s been brewing for a long time.  But it’s a political hot potato and no one has a great answer.  So the can keeps getting kicked.

But we’re rapidly approaching the end of the road.  And this is what has Kiyosaki concerned.

Yet few investors are paying attention … probably because it all seems far away and unrelated to their personal portfolio.

However, the pension problem has the potential to affect everyone everywhere.

The reasons are many, but the short of it is the problem is HUGE and affects millions of people.  The pressure for politicians to do SOMETHING is equally huge.

Peter Schiff says the odds of them doing the right thing are very small.

Our big-brained pals say it probably means 2008-like mega money printing and bailouts … except even BIGGER.

So what does all this mean to Main Street real estate investors?

Keep in mind that some of the biggest pension problems are states and local municipalities.  California and Illinois come to mind.

Unlike private corporations, public pensions don’t have a federal guarantee.

But even if they did, Uncle Sam’s Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC) is in trouble too.

According to this government report, the PGBC will be broke in 2026

“ … the risk of insolvency rises rapidly … over … 99 percent by 2026.” – Page 268

Sure, the Fed can simply print all the money needed to save the PGBC … and Social Security … and more … but at the risk of ruining faith in the dollar.

As we detailed in the Future of Money and Wealth, China’s been systematically moving into position to offer the world an alternative to the U.S. dollar.

Will they succeed?  No one knows, but it’s yet another story we’re paying close attention to.

Meanwhile, unlike Uncle Sam, states and municipalities can’t just monetize their debts away with a little help from the Fed.

Of course, we’ll bet if the stuff hits the fan, the Fed will “courageously” attempt to paper over it … just like they did with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in 2008.

But many observers contend the Fed’s recent inability to “normalize” either rates or their balance sheet means they might not have the horsepower.

In other words, it may take MORE than just the full faith and credit of the United States to persuade the world the dollar is still king.

Oil and gold might be more convincing.  Perhaps this explains some of Uncle Sam’s recent foreign policy moves?

Of course, that’s conjecture FAR above our pay grade.

But until the pension problem becomes a full-blown crisis and federal policy makers attempt to ride in on their white horses …

cash-strapped states and municipalities are on their own … and likely to do desperate things in their attempts to stay solvent.

Some will adopt policies designed to attract new business and tax revenue.

But we’re guessing most will push the burden onto consumers, businesses, and property owners.  That seems to be the way politicians roll.

So when you’re picking states and cities to make long-term investments in, pay attention to the fiscal health of the local governments.

And if your tenants are counting on private pension benefits, they may not be aware of 2014 legislation allowing a reduction of those “guaranteed” benefits.

If YOU have any direct interest in private pensions, you should read this page.

You’ll discover that plan participants can vote against a reduction. But even if most who vote reject it … if not enough people vote, it can pass anyway.

For retired carpenters in Southwest Ohio, benefits drop on April 1, 2019 … along with their ability to pay you rent.

The bad news is the pension problem is a slow-motion train wreck.  It’s rolling over small groups of people a little at a time … but it’s building momentum.

The good news is it’s slow-motion right now, so  there’s time to watch, learn, and react.

But Kiyosaki says it’s a big deal that’s probably going to get a lot bigger. 

From a real estate investor’s perspective, some markets will lose, and others will gain.

Choose carefully.

Until next time … good investing!


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Out of control debt is a problem … and an opportunity

Debt is a lot like religion and politics.  People have strong opinions … so it’s risky to talk about it in a group setting.

But we’re going to do it anyway … because there’s more debt in the world than ever before.  And it has big potential ramifications for real estate investors.

Most real estate investors use debt.  Some because they need to … others because they want to.

Consumer finance gurus hate debt.  They say cut up your credit cards, pay down your mortgage, drive an old car, and brown bag your lunch.

On the other hand, Robert Kiyosaki (the greatest-selling personal finance author in history) LOVES debt …

… but he makes an important distinction between “good” debt and “bad” debt.

“Bad” debt is used for non-productive purposes, and payments come from the earnings of the borrower. 

When you borrow more than you can service and eventually pay off, the debt first enslaves you … then bankrupts you.

That’s bad.  And it can happen to people, businesses, and countries.

“Good” debt is invested for productive purposes … creating income and capital gains exceeding the interest expense.  Good debt is profitable.

And when the payments come from the investment itself … the loan is essentially free, the return is infinite, and the debt goes from good to GREAT!

The topic of debt popped up when ex-Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz announced he may run for President.

His pet worry?   According to this Time.com article

‘‘… the fact that the United States is $20 trillion in debt…” 

Actually, it’s closer to $22 trillion.  But who’s counting? 

It seems Schultz thinks the MAIN problem is Uncle Sam’s debt … and presumably he can fix it.

Maybe.  But we’ve seen dozens of politicians over the decades … both winners and losers … all warn about the national debt.

But no matter what combination of colors end up in control … one thing is SURE.  The debt grows … and grows … and GROWS.

So even if Schultz runs and wins, he’ll probably be the same as Donald Trump, who’s no different than Barack Obama, who was no different than Ronald Reagan.

There.  That should have offended pretty much everyone … so now we’re all on a level playing field.

But this isn’t about politics or personal preferences. 

The whole point is to cut through the noise and look at the structural realities so we can make better investing decisions.

Here’s the dirty little secret … the entire system is debt

When currency is borrowed into existence (which is how it works), then it can’t be paid back WITH interest … unless you borrow even MORE currency into existence to pay the interest too.

It’s an infinite loop of ever-expanding debt.  It’s not political.  It’s STRUCTURAL.

Like water in an aquarium, you can swim from one end to the other, hide under a rock or behind a plant, lurk in the depths, or float at the top. 

But no matter where you go or how you’re positioned, you’re ALWAYS in the water.  If you jump out, you suffocate.

Even if you personally manage to become “debt free” … your government goes into debt for you … then uses taxes and inflation to force you to debt service.

Depressed?  Don’t be. 

But that red pill reality check is the first step towards “confronting the brutal facts” … a pre-requisite to making better, more pragmatic decisions. 

Robert Kiysosaki understands the financial system is based on perpetual, growing debt.  You can’t effectively escape it.

In fact, on our 2012 Investor Summit at Sea™ …  after G. Edward Griffin (The Creature from Jekyll Island)  explained the debt-driven nature of the Federal Reserve system …

… Kiyosaki said, “Don’t fight the Fed.  BE the Fed.”

That’s a LOT of paradigm shattering brilliance all distilled into two short sentences.

But it begs the question … HOW?

Debt. 

The Fed uses debt to create currency and so can you.  The key is to use GOOD debt … and stay keenly aware of where you are in the “cycle.”

Consider this truism …

“If something cannot go on forever, it will stop.” 

 – Herbert Stein 

Debt can only grow safely if it can be serviced.  When payments are missed, then debts default, credit market seize, and asset prices plunge.

That’s what happened in 2008.  And it was GOOD … at least for those who saw it coming (or listened to them) and were properly positioned.

For investors, crashes are like sales.  You can stock up on quality assets … IF you’re emotionally, intellectually, and financially prepared to act quickly.

Good debt is the tool of choice for extracting equity while it’s available … and having it liquid for the next inevitable shopping spree.

And real estate is the collateral of choice …

… because the cash flows, large loan limits, tax breaks, favorable interest rates and amortization schedules make real estate debt the best good debt available.

Plus, you’re double-hedged against inflation because you have both a real asset AND long-term debt.

That’s important because …

Out-of-control debt virtually assures currency debasement.

That’s wonky talk for inflation. It takes more paper money to buy the same real things.

The sooner you “get real” with real estate, commodities, energy … the better you avoid the inflation tax.  Of course, real estate and oil also help avoid income tax too!

And one last thing …

(thanks to our Peak Prosperity pals Chris Martenson and Adam Taggart for enlightening us)

Economic activity requires resources.  Try making a product without raw materials or energy.  It ranges from not easy to impossible.

Debt requires payments … which come from profits … which come from productivity … which requires resources.

Growing debt requires growing supplies of resources.

But if supplies are limited, then growing demand will inevitably bid UP the prices of those resources.

And those who own, produce, process, and distribute those resources … and along with those who invest in the communities those folks live in … will be enriched.

There’s a reason we pay attention to precious metals, energy, farmland … in addition to our fascination with everyday real estate.

Real assets help build a resilient portfolio … even in the midst of a debt-fueled slow-motion train wreck. 

So go ahead and cheer your for your favorite politician.  Watch the Super Bowl, too.  They’re both cheap entertainment.

But remember to confront the brutal flaws of a debt-based system and then structure yourself accordingly.

Until next time … good investing!


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Social Security, Inflation and Real Estate …

If you’re relatively young, Social Security is probably just an abstract concept and another bite out of your paycheck.

But before you tune out,  consider that the U.S. Social Security program creates both problems and opportunities for real estate investors of ALL ages … including YOU.

Big picture …

Social Security and Medicare make up about 42% of federal program expenditures.  They’re a BIG chunk of Uncle Sam’s spending.

According to this Congressional Research Service report on Medicare and this Social Security Administration Trustees’ Report … both are headed towards insolvency in the not-too-distant future.

That’s bad.

Worse … both are “pay as you go” programs.  That’s not our description.  That’s exactly the way the U.S. government describes them.

The programs don’t really have any money.

The only “assets” these programs have are YOUR taxes … and IOUs from Uncle Sam.  The CRS report explains it on page 5.

Of course, IOUs from Uncle Sam are also backed by taxes … and the Federal Reserve’s printing press (which means inflation).

According to recommendations by the SSA Trustees in their report, the answers are … wait for it …

… raise payroll taxes and reduce benefit payments.  

Shocker.

You probably know payroll taxes are paid by working people (your tenants) and their employers.

Higher payroll tax obviously means less take-home pay to live on … including paying their rent to YOU.  So you may want to pay attention to the direction of payroll taxes.

But what about benefit reduction?  How does that matter to real estate investors?

There’s the obvious impact on tenants who rely heavily on Social Security, disability benefits or Medicare to help them with their routine living expenses.

Reduction in subsidies means those tenants have less money to pay rent … and less flexibility to absorb increases to rent or other costs of living.

But there’s a less obvious angle to consider … one we pay close attention to … and that’s the Fed’s printing press.

We trust at this stage of your financial awareness, you’ve heard of John Maynard Keynes, the father of the “Keynesian economics” you hear about.

Here’s a long, but powerful statement made by Keynes in his book The Economic Consequences of the Peace …

“Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the capitalist system was to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflationgovernments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens.  By this method they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some. The sight of this arbitrary rearrangement of riches strikes not only at security but [also] at confidence in the equity of the existing distribution of wealth.

Those to whom the system brings windfalls, beyond their deserts and even beyond their expectations or desires, become ‘profiteers,’ who are the object of the hatred of the bourgeoisie, whom the inflationism has impoverished, not less than of the proletariat.  As the inflation proceeds and the real value of the currency fluctuates wildly from month to month, all permanent relations between debtors and creditors, which form the ultimate foundation of capitalism, become so utterly disordered as to be almost meaningless; and the process of wealth-getting degenerates into a gamble and a lottery.

Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.”

There’s SO much we could say about that quote … but read it and re-read it a few times.   You’ll view the news in a whole different light.

For now, let’s get back to Social Security, inflation … and YOUR real estate investing …

As you can guess, cutting benefits overtly is not a politically popular solution.

Neither is raising taxes.

Yet according to the people in charge of these programs, that’s EXACTLY what needs to happen.

And it is happening … but “in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.”

That is … cutting benefits and raising taxes are both cleverly hidden inside how Uncle Sam and the Fed handle inflation.

When most people think of “inflation,” they think of Uncle Sam’s official gauge of inflation … the Consumer Price Index (CPI).

It’s well known that the Fed has a stated goal of 2% per year inflation … every year … year in and year out.

That doesn’t sound like much. And whether it’s good or bad depends on which side of the coin you’re on.

If you own real assets, you get richer in nominal terms.

If you use long-term debt, like mortgages, you get richer in real terms.

That’s too big a concept for today, but one EVERY real estate investor should know like their name.  In fact, it’s a big part of what Robert Kiyosaki will be talking about at our next Investor Summit at Sea™.

But just because you own properties doesn’t mean you’re home free (punny, we we know) because …

… for folks who don’t have assets (like your tenants) … inflation means it costs more to live.  To see it in dollar terms, use Uncle Sam’s inflation calculator.

Based on the CPI, a tenant in October 2018 would need $1,542 to purchase items that cost only $1,000 in October 1998.

That’s means they need more than a 50% increase in take-home pay over 20 years … just to keep the SAME standard of living.

Similarly, for programs like Social Security … with  built in cost of living adjustments (COLAs) … a $1000 benefit in 1998 now costs Uncle Sam $1542.

No wonder the debt is swelling.

Of course, it didn’t take Uncle Sam long to figure out keeping the CPI lower than real-world rate of inflation, would effectively cut benefits without political fallout.

In other words, as Peter Schiff often points out, the CPI probably UNDER-reports the ACTUAL rate of inflation … which means the reality is even harder for the working class than the CPI indicates.

So it’s important for investors of all types to get the best measure of real-world inflation possible.  And the CPI is arguably not it.

That’s why many investors turn to Shadow Stats or the Chapwood Index.

The Chapwood Index is handy for real estate investors because it breaks inflation down by city.  That’s important because unlike stocks, bonds, and commodities … real estate is a LOCAL investment.

Here’s where it all comes together …

Even though Uncle Sam is motivated to keep inflation LOW for CPI purposes, they have no choice but to print gobs of dollars to fund the huge and growing debt and deficit.

Meanwhile …

Income producing, leveraged real estate is arguably (and by far) the safest, most powerful hedge against long-term inflation.

But again, rental property investors must stay alert to the pressure inflation puts on their tenants.

Remember … just because nominal GDP is growing, it doesn’t mean your tenants are getting more purchasing power.

So be careful to select markets, product types, and tenant demographics that fit well into what’s happening in the big picture.

Until next time … good investing!


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Tariffs, Trade Wars, and Crash Talk with Jim Rogers and Peter Schiff

Freedom Fest is a crazy collection of different mindsets and ideas … and that’s why we make it a point to attend as often as we can.

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show, we talk to two fellow Freedom Fest attendees about their thoughts on the economic and political realities of the world we live in.

These two guests have earned the right to have an opinion … and today, they’ll help us understand their thoughts on the bigger picture and how that picture affects YOUR investing business.

You’ll hear from:

  • Your thinking-ahead host, Robert Helms
  • His crashing co-host, Russell Gray
  • Legendary investor Jim Rogers
  • Finance pro Peter Schiff

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Why YOU need to understand the economy

Peter Schiff has taught us that economics and politics are intertwined. Policy effects the economy … and vice versa.

There’s a lot happening in the wider economic world that affects investors on Main Street. Realizing that has affected our decisions as The Guys … from the events we attend each year to the way we structure our annual Summit at Sea™.

Friends and mentors like today’s guests help us understand the economic systems at work in the U.S. and around the world … and how those systems affect what happens in the financial headlines.

Speaking of headlines, you won’t hear these gentlemen very often in mainstream financial media because they don’t fit the narrative the media wants to tell … which is that an upward trajectory can continue forever.

As we know, anything involving money follows a cycle of ups and downs … and we’re in the midst of the longest economic recovery EVER.

There’s no doubt that at some point, we WILL hit a downturn. But there is good news … those who prepare for impact can thrive, even during bad times.

Words of wisdom from Jim Rogers

Legendary investor Jim Rogers co-founded the Quantum Fund with George Soros.  

We were honored to talk to him about what it takes to be an investor in changing times.

“You have to be open to change,” says Jim. To anticipate future changes, you have to realize the world WILL change. And it takes work, he says.

So how can we prepare? “When everyone’s exuberant, you should be worried,” Jim notes. “That means they’re not thinking.”

(Hint, hint: consider the current market.)

Jim has written several books. His most recent is called A Gift to My Children.

Although Jim didn’t originally want kids, he found out he was wrong once he had his own children. These days, he is always thinking of what he wants to teach his kids.

That’s what the book is about … the lessons he has learned in investing and in life, for his kids … and yours.

We also asked Jim for his thoughts on cryptocurrencies. He said, “Blockchain is going to change everything we know.”

That means a lot of people being put out of business … but it will also CREATE a lot of new businesses. So don’t worry.

We can translate that same idea to the broader economic world. You’ve got to go through a downturn to get to an upturn.

Jim reminded us that the Chinese word for crisis, weiji, means both danger and opportunity.

Speaking of China … that’s where Jim lives. He decided to move to the other side of the world to make sure his children grew up speaking Mandarin … they’re now fluent.

“China’s going to become the next great country,” he says.

Peter Schiff offers a voice of reason

We also enjoyed chatting with financial guru Peter Schiff. He has attended every Freedom Fest except one … and that was because his child was due.

Before the ’08 financial crash, Peter was a voice of reason. He maintained that the economy wasn’t great … everyone just thought it was.

The booming economy pre-crash was based on a bubble of appreciation, consumption, and inflated prices. People were deceived because it seemed like good news was around every corner … so they weren’t prepared for the bubble to pop.

As opposed to the bubble in ’08, our current bubble hasn’t provided boosts to the large majority of people, says Peter. We’ve just barely reached pre-recession levels.

So, why do these economic bubbles happen? It’s a result of what Peter calls “stag-flation” … stagnation PLUS inflation.

Subscribers to Keynesian economics believe unemployment causes inflation, so the idea that employment AND inflation could rise at the same time seemed impossible.

But inflation is caused by an expanding money supply, not expanding prices.

And the thing that keeps prices in check is the supply of products. Having a lot of stuff bolsters a strong economy and keeps a lid on pricing.

Scarcity is what leads to high prices.

Inflation in the 1960s happened because of policies from earlier decades, says Peter … high spending, high levels of borrowing, and the government’s decision to go off the gold standard.

According to Peter, today’s monetary policy is MUCH WORSE than anything that happened in the 60s and 70s.

And our economy is less secure … so we can’t just raise interest rates when things get bad.

Everybody is exposed, says Peter … because everyone has more debt and interest rate risk than ever before.

The Fed doesn’t want to think massive inflation is possible. “But it’s the problem you don’t see coming that gets you,” Peter notes.

The next crisis “will be bigger and will be worse.”

Peter talks tariffs and trade wars

People are excited about tariffs on China … but they shouldn’t be, according to Peter. “We derive the most short-term benefit from trade,” he says. “We have the most to lose.”

The problem is not the federal deficit … it’s the economy. When deficits pile up, we destroy our wealth, and right now we have HUGE trade deficits because of our fiscal policy.

We also have tax and regulatory codes that make American businesses less competitive.

But trade deficits offer us two BIG benefits.

First, we are getting a ton of REAL products … and it costs us nothing, because we can produce or borrow those dollars out of thin air.

Second, when the Chinese recycle those dollars, they buy U.S. treasury bonds.

So trade deficits mean prices are lower and interest rates are lower.

If Trump is successful on tariffs, Americans will have higher prices, higher interest rates … and a lower standard of living.

Tariffs “will make us the losers in the short term,” says Peter. They’ll also exacerbate any recession that happens.

We talked with Peter about one more thing … why investors should consider gold and international assets.

When we spoke, gold and silver prices were down. “That’s the flip side of optimism,” Peter says. “Optimism is not buying gold, because people usually buy gold when they’re worried, and people aren’t worried right now.”

“When no one is worried is when YOU should be worried,” Peter says.

Gold is more valuable now than it was in 2011, says Peter … but it’s also cheaper.

He told us there’s tremendous potential in gold mining stocks, as well as international assets.

Investors should look for where money will go when it flees the U.S. … and try to invest there before the economy crashes and there’s a stampede.

Remember, you can make 10 times the amount you invest … but you can never lose 10 times the amount. You can only lose what you put in.

For more from Peter, check out the Peter Schiff Podcast.

Get educated

Peter and Jim have a different way of looking at the world … and that’s a good thing.

If you’re learning some of their concepts for the first time, we wouldn’t be surprised if you’re a bit lost. That’s okay.

We encourage you to keep seeking out knowledge and multiple perspectives … so you can make informed decisions and be prepared for the future.

One great resource to consider is our Future of Money and Wealth video series.

We realized our conference speakers had a WEALTH of information to offer … so we decided to share it with YOU. This video series is great for beginners and long-time investors alike.

Remember … you can’t take effective action without education!


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Future of Money and Wealth

The economy may be strong …

but what about the financial system supporting it?

 

Discover the opportunities hidden inside a FRAGILE financial system … and how to HEDGE against inflation, deflation, and even stagflation.

Featuring voice largely shunned by mainstream media, the Future of Money and Wealth reveals …

 

  • The REAL trade war no one’s talking about … and how Russia and China are making major moves to take down a major U.S. stronghold …

  • Which assets are in bubbles now … and specific strategies to fortify your balance sheet … before it’s too late …

  • The shocking truth about oil … it’s direct impact on YOUR wealth … and how to profit from what’s about to happen …

  • Who the new tax law REALLY helps … and how YOU can use it to grow more wealth faster (it’s NOT an IRA) …

  • PLUS … candid conversations about crypto-currencies … wealth privacy strategiescontingency planning … and MUCH MORE!

 

Just ONE good idea can make or save you a FORTUNE …

 

Future of Money and Wealth brings you a HUGE collection of experts, thought-leaders, and real-world investors … who ALL volunteered their time to share their best ideas, warnings, and strategies with over 400 people in the live audience …


Robert Kiyosaki is the author of Rich Dad Poor Dad

Robert Kiyosaki

Famous for being the greatest-selling personal finance author in history (Rich Dad Poor Dad series), Robert is a mega-millionaire investor in real estate, precious metals, and oil. He’s also an avid student of money, economics, investing, and the financial system. He was one of the few pundits publicly warning the world about the 2008 financial crisis.


Doug Duncan PhD is the chief ecoomist for Fannie MaeDoug Duncan

Doug is SVP and chief economist for Fannie Mae, which is perhaps the most dominant force in U.S. residential lending.

Doug is responsible for strategic research, including how Fannie Mae’s activities affect housing. He’s been named one of Bloomberg / Business Week’s 50 Most Powerful People in Real Estate.


Peter Schiff is the CEO and Chief Global Strategist for Euro-Pacific Capital, the best selling author Crash Proof and The Real Crash, and the host of the Peter Schiff podcastPeter Schiff

Peter’s also a multi-millionaire investor, money manager, and outspoken financial pundit.

A best-selling author in his own right (Crash Proof 2.0 and The Real Crash), like Robert Kiyosaki, Peter was on record vociferously alerting people in 2006 about the impending financial crisis.

 


Chris Martenson is host of the Peak Prosperity podcast and the creator of The Crash Course.Chris Martenson

An economic researcher and futurist, Chris is an expert in the relationship between energy, the environment, and economics. Rising to prominence with his groundbreaking video series, The Crash Course, Chris is a best-selling author (Prosper!) and hosts a popular podcast featuring interviews with a variety of thought leaders and experts.


Simon Black is the founder of Sovereign ManSimon Black

A former Army intelligence officer turned international entrepreneur and investor, Simon’s a worldwide traveler, an avid student of political and financial history, and has developed an eclectic portfolio of investments and business ventures all over the globe.

Simon’s diverse experience and global perspectives make his presentations both practical and enlightening.


Tom Wheelwright is Robert Kiyosaki's personal CPA, a Rich Dad Advisor, and the best-selling author of Tax Free WealthTom Wheelwright

Tom’s a high energy tax and wealth strategist, a best-selling author, an entrepreneur … and is Robert Kiyosaki’s personal CPA.

Tom’s extremely well-versed in the new U.S. tax law and shares how investors can use it to build substantial wealth and permanently reduce taxes.

 


Kim Kiyosak is the best-selling author if Rich Woman and co-founder of the Rich Dad CompanyKim Kiyosaki

Kim is a high-powered real estate investor, entrepreneur, and best-selling author of Rich Woman. She’s co-founder of the Rich Dad company and a popular speaker on the topics of investing,
entrepreneurship, and empowering women.

Kim co-hosts the Rich Dad radio show, and is an avid student of investing, economics, and personal development.


G. Edward Griffin is the author of the Creature from Jekyll IslandG. Edward Griffin

Ed is a renowned investigative journalist and best known for his epic and controversial book, The Creature from Jekyll Island – A Second Look at the Federal Reserve.

Ed has a deep and historical understanding of money, currency, central banking … and a knack for explaining all of it in an easy to understand way.

 


Brien Kundin is the produced of The New Orleans Investment Conference and the publisher of Gold NewsletterBrien Lundin

For nearly four decades, Brien’s been an active student, investor, commentator, and newsletter publisher in the precious metals industry.

As producer of the longest running investing conference in the world, Brien’s one of the most informed, connected, and intelligent experts on money, precious metals, mining, investing, and economics.


 

Future of Money and Wealth is brought to you by The Real Estate Guys™ Radio Show

 

Broadcasting on conventional radio since 1997, The Real Estate Guys™ radio show is an investment talk program focusing on real estate as the core of a real asset portfolio.

 

After being among the many real estate investors caught completely unaware and unprepared for what happened in 2008 …

 

… hosts Robert Helms and Russell Gray are on a mission to bring the brightest and best real asset investing experts together to share insights, ideas, and strategies for building and preserving real, sustainable wealth.

 

The Real Estate Guys™ co-host Russell Gray explains why …

 

What YOU DON’T KNOW you don’t know can COST YOU BIG

 

Sound dramatic? Maybe. But consider this …

 

Wealth Wiped Out Without Warning

In 1929, 1987, 2000 and 2008 … millions of people were financially DEVASTATED by market disruptions they didn’t even see coming.

 

Meanwhile, in those very same markets … informed and prepared investors not only survived … they THRIVED.

 

What’s the difference?

 

Be Careful Who You Listen To

Successful investors didn’t buy the hype from Wall Street, financial media, and politicians who downplay dangers … just so they can earn fees, placate advertisers, and win votes.

 

Remember this classic assurance?

 

“Importantly, we see no serious broader spillover to banks or thrift institutions from the problems in the subprime market.”

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke on May 17, 2007

 

Oops. Of course, just a year later the financial system melted down … triggering the GREATEST FINANCIAL CRISIS since the Depression.

 

But successful investors back then understood history. They looked at the financial system underneath the “strong” economy … and saw reasons to be alarmed.

 

They paid attention to the people and signs others were ignoring …

 

… so they could be proactive to get in position to prosper while there’s still time.

 

TODAY, there are record levels of consumer, corporate, and government debt

 

… and rising interest rates are already triggering loan defaults … to levels not seen since the 2008 crisis.

 

Stocks indexes are setting bubble highs … and market volatility suggests traders are ready to run for the exits … crashing prices … at the first sign of recession.

 

And that’s just some of the more obvious challenges facing Main Street investors.

 

But there’s GOOD news …

 

Many successful investors prospered through past market disruptions and YOU can too.

 

By finding new ideas, strategies, and the right experts you’re better able to see what’s coming sooner

 

… so you can be proactive preparing YOUR business and portfolio to both survive and THRIVE through the next crisis.

 

Future of Money and Wealth brings YOU important insights from many top experts … so YOU can be more aware and prepared.

 

Eavesdrop on the Experts …

 

Imagine being a fly on the wall while some of the biggest brains in economics and investing share expert insights and discuss the most pressing issues facing investors today ..

 

You don’t have to imagine … because the Future of Money and Wealth is all on videotape and ready for YOU to watch from the comfort of your own home or office!

 

Just ONE good idea can make or save you a FORTUNE …

 

Explore the future of money and wealth with people well-qualified to have an opinion …

 

Speakers include Rich Dad Poor Dad author Robert Kiyosaki and outspoken financial pundit and money manager Peter Schiff.

 

Both men are famous for LOUDLY warning the 2008 crash was coming … in spite of being mocked by mainstream financial media.

 

Back then the economy was STRONG … but the financial system was FRAGILE. And while many “experts” couldn’t see it … Kiyosaki and Schiff did.

 

And while Federal Reserve chair Ben Bernanke was DEAD WRONG … Robert Kiyosaki and Peter Schiff were RIGHT.

 

Today Robert Kiyosaki and Peter Schiff are concerned again. And this time they’re not alone.

 

Fannie Mae (yes, THAT Fannie Mae … the one making most of the mortgages in the U.S.) chief economist Doug Duncan points out that most of his predictions from last year turned out to be eerily accurate …

 

… and then reveals when he thinks the NEXT recession will strike (it’s not that far away)

 

And that’s just one of TWENTY powerful expert presentations and panels recorded at the Future of Money and Wealth conference.

 

Other important topics include …

 

    • Where real estate is likely headed … and which niches are best positioned for profit

 

      • Why oil and gas are likely headed higher … and the important impact on the economy and opportunity for investors

 

        • The fascinating rise of block-chain technology … and how crypto-currencies are changing the future of money and wealth

 

… PLUS a shocking revelation about the RAGING currency war between the U.S. and the tag team of Russia and China.

 

Far Away But TOO Close to Home …

 

You’ll discover there’s a WHOLE LOT MORE to the sparring between Uncle Sam and Russia and China than the mainstream media lets on.

 

And while it may seem like it’s far away from YOUR income and investments … it’s NOT.

 

If you earn, save, or measure your wealth in dollars …

 

… you REALLY need to understand the Future of Money and Wealth.

 

Nearly 400 people in the live audience at the Future of Money and Wealth conference were blown away. They called it “life-changing”, “eye-opening”, and “invaluable”.

 

But don’t take our word for it … watch for yourself …

 

Here’s the GREAT NEWS …

 

We videotaped the ENTIRE event … all TWENTY presentations and panels …

 

… nearly fourteen compelling hours of essential education

 

… and we’ve organized them all into one powerful online video series.

 

Now YOU can hear directly about the Future of Money and Wealth from Robert Kiyosaki, Peter Schiff, Doug Duncan, Chris Martenson, Tom Wheelwright, Brien Lundin, Simon Black, G. Edward Griffin … and MANY other top experts.

 

You may not know who all these people are right now … but you’ll be REALLY glad to hear from them.

 

Their wisdom is impacting the lives of many millions of people all around the world … and it can help you too.

 

Real World Investors React …

 

It’s one thing to hear and understand what’s happening in geo-politics and macro-economics. It’s another to decide what to DO about it at the micro-level.

 

So we included lots of practical insights from a great collection of niche experts, including …


Adam Taggart is co-founder of Peak Prosperity and co-author of ProsperAdam Taggart

Adam started his career as investment banker and saw first hand how broken Wall Street is. Later, he helped a company go from start up to acquisition in Silicon Valley. Today, Adam and his partner Chris Martenson develop and share ideas to help people prosper even when the world is full of uncertainty.


Kathy Fettke is the co-founder of Real Wealth NetworkKathy Fettke

Kathy’s a highly successful real estate investor, syndicator, and investment club leader.

She’s also a frequently featured expert real estate pundit in media and at conferences.

 


Gene Guarino is founder of Residential Assisted Living Academy and an expert in residential assisted living investingGene Guarino

Gene’s a recognized leader in the residential assisted living facilities investing space. He’s a trained, but not practicing Certified Financial Planner. Gene saw opportunity in solving one of the major problems facing an aging demographic … and grabbed it.

 


Beth Clifford is an international real estate developerBeth Clifford

Armed with a formal education in classical economics and graduating with honors, Beth cut her business teeth on the streets of Wall Street.

Today she’s CEO of a groundbreaking offshore real estate development and construction company.


Brad Sumrok is the founder of Sumrok Apartment Investing MasteryBrad Sumrok

Brad freed himself from the corporate grind in less than 5 years by investing in apartment buildings.

The 2008 financial crisis crushed many homeowners … and made many apartment investors multi-millionaires. Brad not only built a portfolio that survived the crash … he thrived through it.


David Sewell is an international agricultural investor and entrepreneur

David Sewell

David is a Canadian-born international agricultural investor and entrepreneur operating in Latin America.

With an MBA in Corporate Finance and an extensive background in real estate, securities, syndication, and international business … there’s not much David hasn’t seen.


Damion Lupo is founder of Total Control FinancialDamion Lupo

Damion is a modern-day financial renaissance man with expertise in real estate investing, precious metals, and crypto-currencies. He specializes in strategies using alternative assets and sheltering wealth from predators and taxes through qualified retirement plans.


Patrick Donohoe is founder and CEO of Paradigm LifePatrick Donohoe

Patrick is a financial strategist and an expert in the unique use of life insurance contracts for enhanced cash management and private banking.

He has a degree in economics, hosts his own financial podcast, and is an avid student of economics, investing, and financial history.


Dana Samuleson is owner of American Gold Exchange, and an expert in precious metals and numismatic coins.Dana Samuelson

Dana has been in the precious metals business for decades.

He owns and operates a long-established precious metals and numismatic coin dealership, and is past-President of the Professional Numismatic Guild.

 


 

It’s said to truly understand a subject, you need to study it from multiple perspectives.

 

Wealth that took a lifetime to accumulate can be lost or severely diminished in a financial crisis.

 

To survive and thrive when a financial system collapses or resets takes understanding, awareness and preparation. Future of Money and Wealth is an affordable, fun, and easy way to get started!

 

A tremendous value …

 

This program cost MANY thousands of dollars to produce. With travel, hotel and registration … every person at the taping paid thousands.

 

And the information in this video series is EASILY worth thousands of dollars … because just ONE great idea can make or save you a FORTUNE.

 

So we could charge a LOT more for this program … and it would be totally worth it.

 

And of course, we need to charge SOMETHING to cover costs … AND more importantly, so you have enough skin in the game that you’ll actually watch it all.

 

But as you’ll see … it’s important to get this vital information out to as many people as possible. So we’re making it a no-brainer …

 

Get ALL 20 videos … 14 hours of compelling content … for only $497 (regularly $1997)

 

PLUS a SPECIAL BONUS when you act today … the Strategic Real Asset Investing webinar.

 

HUGE value … great price … powerful, life-changing information. But ONLY if you watch it!

 

Remember … what you don’t know that you don’t know could cost you a fortune … just ask all the people blind-sided by the last financial crisis.

 

“An investment in education pays the best dividend.”
– Benjamin Franklin

 

Good advice. No wonder Ben’s on the $100 bill.

 

Now it’s decision time …

 

You’ve read this far for a reason.

 

You’re concerned about the future … YOUR future … but while it’s easy to be interested, it takes an investment of time, money and effort to actually get educated and busy implementing.

 

But if you think that’s a burden …

 

Consider the price of NOT being informed and prepared …

 

And even if “this time it’s different” (famous last words) …

 

.. and there’s never going to be another financial crisis … sunshine and unicorns for as far as the eye can see …

 

Which is worse … to be prepared and not have a crisis … or to have a crisis and not be prepared?

 

Remember, the course you don’t watch can’t help.

 

Whatever you have, you’ve worked hard for.

 

And remember … the flip side of a crisis is opportunity, so it’s not gloomy … there’s a lot to look forward to and plan for.

 

For the informed and prepared … the future is bright. But for those who aren’t … not so much.

 

With the stakes this high, it’s time to …

 

To your prepared and prosperous future,

 

Robert Helms and Russell Gray
Hosts
The Real Estate Guys™ Radio Show
Producers of Future of Money and Wealth

 

P.S. Think about how much financial education you got in school. Most people get NONE … and so they’re easily herded into a system designed to feed the banks interest, the government taxes, and Wall Street commissions and fees.

 

Worse, without context … it’s nearly impossible to recognize major problems forming … while bankers, politicians, and financial media claim all is well.

 

Future of Money and Wealth will shock and enlighten you … and help you prepare yourself and your portfolio to PROSPER through what many experts believe is an inevitable economic re-set.

 

You’re a click away from changing your future …

 

Get ALL 20 videos … 14 hours of compelling content … for only $497 (regularly $1997)

PLUS a SPECIAL BONUS when you act today … the Strategic Real Asset Investing webinar.

Just ONE good idea can make or save you a FORTUNE …

Robert Kiyosaki on the Financial System, Fake Teachers and Real Assets

This summer, we spent time at events like Freedom Fest and the Red Pill Expo … where we bumped into some of our mentors and friends … folks like Peter Schiff and Robert Kiyosaki.

It’s not by accident we keep running into the same people. These folks all have the same desire … to read between the lines and find the TRUTH about what’s really happening in the world. And they don’t jump to conclusions.

Robert Kiyosaki has helped us see both sides of the story for decades. This time around we chat with him about his views on the financial system, fake teachers, and the importance of real assets.

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show you’ll hear from:

  • Your very real host, Robert Helms
  • His faking-it co-host, Russell Gray
  • Best-selling financial author Robert Kiyosaki

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Get a REAL education

We spoke with Robert Kiyosaki at Freedom Fest. “I come to learn,” he says.

Freedom Fest and similar events … like the New Orleans Investment Conference are like a mental gym. “They challenge the way I think,” says Robert.

That’s one reason educational events are so important (like our Future of Money and Wealth webinar series, which features talks by Robert and many more financial gurus).

REAL education is more than just listening to the salespeople. It’s getting outside your cocoon and seeking out new information.

Invest in your PASSION

One idea Robert thinks is really essential in the investing business is to invest in what you love and enjoy. “I do think real estate is the best,” says Robert … that’s why it has been his bread and butter for years.

But maybe avocadoes are your passion … in that case, perhaps you should consider investing in an avocado farm.

You should always do your due diligence and work with a good financial planner … but investing in your PASSION will always be more successful than investing in something you’re “meh” about.

REAL assets, REAL money, and REAL teachers

“We don’t have a prayer as long as we’re working for money,” says Robert. He believes investors should steer away from money … in favor of REAL assets.

Investors should also surround themselves with REAL professionals … those who’ve done their research and know what they’re talking about.

A lot of people are in trouble because they’re learning from FAKE teachers, says Robert … people who don’t have a real conception of cash flow.

Two other things investors should be aware of … FAKE money and FAKE assets.

Be wary of a monetary system that isn’t backed up (by gold, for example), and don’t rely on traditional assets, Robert advises.

If you’re doing everything “right” … working a 9-to-5 job, putting money in your 401k, investing in stocks … you’re being screwed by the system, says Robert.

SMART investors have to learn to work WITH the system.

For more on FAKE versus REAL, check out Robert’s upcoming book FAKE, which will be released as an entirely digital series.

REAL talk about our financial system

Central banks control paper money … and that’s dangerous, says Robert. He cites people like Jim Rogers, who believes we’re headed for the worst crash yet because we have an abundance of printed money and debt.

“Tragedy follows printing money,” says Robert.

But it doesn’t matter how bad the system is … what matters is the actions YOU take. We like to say BE the Fed … don’t BEAT the Fed.

That means figuring out how to make the most of our financial system … knowing the tax laws and figuring out how to make them work for you.

“The next collapse will look like something we’ve never seen before,” says Robert.

But investors don’t have to be scared … if they prepare for the inevitable BEFORE it happens.

We talked with Robert about digital currencies, like Bitcoin. “Gold and silver were here before us and will be here forever,” says Robert.

But investors need to look at real assets (like property and gold), cybercurrency, AND paper money when they’re investing … because they’re the three big components of our current monetary system.

Smart investors work to figure out what is real and lasting.

For more from Robert Kiyosaki, read the classic book Rich Dad Poor Dad … if you haven’t already. And check out the Rich Dad Radio Show.

A REAL financial expert

Robert has been studying the financial system forever. He remembers the history of money and has watched the financial system change.

As we often say, “Those who fail to remember history are doomed to repeat it.”

You HAVE to understand financial fundamentals and the structure of our financial system before you can read the news and really SEE between the lines.

Like Robert says, a crash is highly likely … we can’t predict WHEN it will happen, but we CAN hedge against the eventuality of it.

Get educated … so you can stay on top of the wave when the tsunami comes.


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Don’t get lost in the lag …

Investors and economists often talk about cycles … business cycles, credit cycles, even news and legislative cycles.

Cycles are the ebb and flow of causes and effects sloshing around in the economic sea we all swim in.  They’re big picture stuff.

For nose-to-the-grindstone Main Street real estate investors, cycles are barely interesting, seemingly irrelevant, and mostly boring.

But a danger for Main Streeters is not seeing something dangerous developing on the horizon.  Another danger is getting lost in the lag.

The lag is the gap between when a “cause” happens and when the “effect” shows up.

For example, in a typical supply-and-demand cycle, a shortage of homes could cause prices to spike.    The effect of the supply-demand imbalance is higher prices, which in turn becomes a new cause.

Rising prices causes builders to increase production … and existing property owners to put their homes on the market … thereby increasing supply.

As supply grows, price escalation slows. If supply overshoots demand, prices might actually fall.  If you’re structured for only rising prices, you might have a problem.

Of course, there are other factors affecting pricing such as interest rates, wage growth, taxes, labor and material costs, availability of developable land, and on and on.

But our point is … an amateur investor often doesn’t see the cause for price escalation (or anything else) until the effect happens.

Once prices rise, they jump in to ride the wave … believing prices will go up tomorrow because they went up yesterday …  and their speculation only adds to the demand and fuels the fire.

At least for a while …

What’s often overlooked is the production pipeline … until the supply shows up and softens pricing.  Near-sighted investors often get lost in the lag.  They’re not sure where they are in the cycle.

It’s what happened to “GO Zone” investors after Katrina and Bakken investors during the shale boom.

Folks bought in during a boom, not considering the “production lag” … and didn’t structure for a slowdown.  When it happened, they didn’t have a Plan B.

It’s a simple example … and before 2008, that was about as deep as our analysis ran.

But the pain of 2008 opened our eyes … and 10 years later they’re still as wide open as we can keep them … because we know there are cycles as sure as the sun comes up.

That knowledge isn’t bad.  In fact, it’s good.  Because when you see the bigger picture, you also see more opportunity.

So we study history for lessons … current events for clues … and we talk with experts for different perspectives.

It sounds complicated … and maybe it is a little … but it’s like the old kids’ game, Mousetrap.

There’s a lot of fancy machinery hanging over our heads …and it’s just a series of causes and effects.  “A” triggers “B” triggers “C” and so on … until it’s in our faces.

But even at the street level with our nose on the cheese, if we watch the machinery, we can see events unfold and still have time to react appropriately.

So let’s go past a simple supply-and-demand example.

Back in 1999, Uncle Sam decided to “help” wannabe homebuyers get Fannie Mae loans … so the government lowered lending standards and pushed more funds into housing.  It seemed like a nice thing to do.

But at the time, observers cautioned it could lead to financial problems at Fannie Mae … even to the point of failure.  It took nine years (lag) … but that’s exactly what happened.  Fannie Mae eventually failed and needed a bailout.

But before things crashed, it BOOMED … and people made fortunes. We remember those days well.  It was AWESOME … until it wasn’t.

Folks were profitably playing in the housing jumphouse from the time the easy money air pump switched on until the circuit blew.  Lags can be a lot of fun.

Because few understood why the party started and why it might end … most thought the good times would roll forever.  So they were only structured for sunshine.

Oops.

People who urged caution at the height of fun … like Peter Schiff and Robert Kiyosaki … were derided as party-poopers.

Of course, they both did well through the crisis because even in the boom they were aware of the lag and the possibility of a downturn … and were structured accordingly.  Smart.

Now, let’s go beyond supply, demand, and mortgages … and look even further up the machinery …

In late 2000, Congress passed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000.

Doesn’t sound like it has anything to do with real estate … BUT …

This was the birthplace of unregulated derivatives … like those infamous credit default swaps no one in real estate ever heard of …

… until they destroyed Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers in 2008, while bringing AIG to the brink of bankruptcy, and nearly crashing the financial system.

This mess got ALL over real estate investors in a big and painful way … even though there was an 8 year lag before it showed up.

Remember, for those 8 years a lot of the money created through derivatives made its way into mortgages and real estate … adding LOTS of air to the jumphouse.

Back then, real estate investors were riding high … just like today’s stock market investors.

And those who only measured the air pressure in the jumphouse … ignoring other gauges … didn’t see the circuits over-heating … until the system failed.

Then the air abruptly stopped, the inflated markets quickly deflated, and the equity-building party turned into a balance-sheet-destroying disaster.

And it happened FAST.

Which bring us to today …

The Atlanta Fed recently raised their GDP forecast for the booming U.S. economy.

Stock indexes are at all-time highs.  Unemployment is low.  The new Fed chair says, “The economy is strong.”

Some say these are the effects of tax cuts and a big spending bill.

Makes sense … because when you measure productivity by spending, when you spend, the numbers move.  Spending, or “fiscal stimulus” is an easy way to goose the economy.

But some are concerned this is a temporary flash fed by debt and deficits.

Others say it’s fiscal stimulus done right … kindling a permanent fire of economic growth and activity.

Could be.  After all, Trump’s a real estate guy, so he understands using debt to build or acquire long-term productive assets.

Real estate investors know better than most that not all debt and spending are the same.

Of course, government, geo-politics, and a national economy are a much different game than New York City real estate development.

And there are certainly some cracks showing in all these strong economic numbers …

A strong U.S. dollar is giving emerging markets fits.  Home buyingbuildingappreciation, and mortgages are all slowing.

We’re not here to prognosticate about what might happen.  Lots of smart people are already doing that, with a wide variety of opinions.

We just keep listening.

Our point today is … there’s a lag between cause and effect smart investors are wise to consider.

When lots of things are changing very fast, as they are right now, some are tempted to sit out and see what happens.  Probably not smart.

After all, the air in the jumphouse could last a while.  No one likes to miss out on all the fun.

But others put on sunglasses, toss the umbrella, and go out and dance in the sunshine … without watching the horizon.  Also not smart.

Dark clouds could be forming in the distance which might quickly turn sunshine into storm.

The best investors we’ve met take a balanced approach … staying alert and nimble while enjoying the sunshine, but not getting lost in the lag.

Changes in economic seasons aren’t the problem.  It’s not seeing them coming and being properly prepared.

Until next time … good investing!


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Cover Your Assets Part 1 – Protecting Your Wealth Today and Tomorrow

An essential element of real estate investing is protecting the assets you’ve worked so hard to acquire.

When you’re just starting out, your investment business is pretty low liability. But as you acquire properties, the liabilities build up … and a legal problem with one property could cascade and affect your other assets if you don’t have the proper protections in place.

In this show, we’ll talk with a Rich Dad advisor on how to sort your assets into buckets so you NEVER lose everything at once.

Part one of this two-part series is for beginners and experienced investors alike. As John F. Kennedy said, “The time to repair a roof is when the sun is shining.” NOW is the time to put in place protections to keep you safe if troubles arise.

In this episode of The Real Estate Guys™ show you’ll hear from:

  • Your host, asset Robert Helms
  • His liability of a co-host, Russell Gray
  • Garrett Sutton, best-selling author and legal advisor to Robert Kiyosaki

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Firewall your assets

The society we live in is very litigious … and that’s not going to change any time soon. So what can investors do?

We talked to Garrett Sutton about precautions YOU can take to protect your assets as they grow.

Your best option, Garrett says, is probably an LLC, simply because they provide the best asset protection. An LLC allows you to firewall your assets so one lawsuit doesn’t set off a chain reaction that leaves you asset-less.

Why is an LLC better than a corporation? Besides better asset protection, LLCs offer more tax flexibility and charging order protection.

Charging orders are legal judgments that allow creditors to access the money you make through your business. But some states offer charging order protection to LLCs.

And, Garrett says, most lawyers prefer to go through insurance so they can collect right away. So ideally investors have two firewall protections … an LLC or corporation AND insurance to back them up.

Some states, like Utah, California, and New York, don’t provide great asset protection for LLCs. Creditors can blow through the LLC and force the sale of assets … not ideal.

What can you do if you live in a state that doesn’t have the best rules for entities? Garrett reminds us you DON’T have to form an entity in the same state as your property or your residence.

How to set up your own LLC

While setting up an LLC may sound onerous and difficult, Garret says it’s really not that hard. There are two main steps:

  1. Set up an LLC in the state you want.
    1. Pick a name and make sure the name is available
    2. File your articles of organization, operating agreement, and certificates.
  2. Transfer the title of your property into the name of your LLC. This is NOT a sale … simply a transfer.

While there are plenty of websites advertising do-it-yourself LLC help, it’s much better to talk to an attorney, says Garrett.

A certified legal professional can walk you through all the steps and help you understand which business decisions are right for you.

And, an attorney will help you stay aware of formalities … the easy-to-follow rules that will keep your LLC safe from legal troubles.

Fine-tune your asset protection strategy

Garrett is a best-selling author. His books on starting your own corporation or LLC cover the strategies and techniques YOU can use to increase wealth and reduce risk.

A technique SOME people use is changing their LLC from partnership taxation to C or S corporation taxation.

That’s fine, says Garrett … as long as you don’t forget to amend your operating agreement.

Business decisions as simple as tax changes have many permutations we don’t even think about … another reason an asset protection attorney is essential.

Other investors are looking into offshore asset protection trusts. Something some investors don’t realize is that more than 10 states have created onshore trusts. But while these trusts make your money bulletproof, recent cases have demonstrated that it’s only bulletproof in the state where you’ve set up the trust.

Although there are many tricks for upping your protection level … and your wealth … investors don’t need 17 layers of LLCs.

They also don’t need to spend a ridiculous amount of money to form an LLC. For example, a Wyoming LLC provides great protection levels, for only $50 a year (plus any legal fees).

And LLCs don’t mean you’re locked into operating decisions. You have the latitude to make changes. LLCs are flexible!

Interested in delving deeper into the legal realm of asset protection? Delve into what Garrett has to offer on his website.

And while Garrett provides affordable asset protection and legal services, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t seek out your own legal help … just make sure the people you work with are serious about helping small investors stay on top of corporate formalities.

In part two of our asset protection series, we’ll delve deeper into the legal world with a discussion of offshore asset protection strategies. Listen in for info on taking your profits outside of the States!


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Lessons from Facebook’s face-plant …

No doubt you’ve heard Facebook’s stock face-planted recently. But just in case, here’s the whole gory story in just three headlines over five days …

Facebook stock hits record high ahead of earnings – MarketWatch 7/25/18

Investors … continue to shrug off … gaffes … with privacy and security … Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg … said … the company has not seen an impact on the company’s top line.”

Facebook’s stock market decline is the largest one-day drop in US history

– The Verge 7/26/18

“Facebook’s market capitalization lost $120 billion in 24 hours.

Facebook’s stock set to enter bear-market territory after third straight decline – MarketWatch 7/30/18

“The stock has now fallen 22% from its record close … on July 25.”

Of course, if you’re a real estate investor this may seem like only a moderately interesting side story buried in all the news flying across your screen.

And maybe that’s all it is.

Then again, maybe there are some things to be gleaned from this epic implosion … even for real estate investors.

Lesson 1: Just because everyone else is … doesn’t mean YOU should

Your mom probably taught you that. But it’s good investing advice too. It’s never smart to be late to an equity party … or late leaving.

The so-called FAANG stocks (Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix and Google) are the “must have” stocks for … just about EVERYONE.

The problem is popular assets often get bid up well past their fundamental value … as speculators jump in hoping to ride the upward trend for awhile …

… and hoping to be fast enough to get out before the trend turns.

Of course, hope isn’t a very good investing strategy.

Lesson 2: Don’t ignore problems just to keep hope alive

Notice the quote about investors continuing to shrug off bad news … ignoring the obviously developing problems at Facebook.

So when Zuckerberg comes out right before the bad news … even as Facebook’s stock was heading to a record HIGH … and says the problems aren’t affecting the top line …

… investors apparently chose to believe him, … and not heed the clues in the news that clearly showed Facebook was headed for stormy seas.

Now, investors are suing Facebook and Zuckerberg for misleading them.

But investors should also look at the big picture, and consider the motives of these who claim as is well.

Remember this classic assurance from the world’s foremost banker?

“Importantly, we see no serious broader spillover to banks or thrift institutions from the problems in the subprime market.”

– Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke on May 17, 2007

Just a year later the financial system all but imploded.  But the danger signs were there …

Peter Schiff and Robert Kiyosaki were warning people. Most didn’t listen.

We didn’t. But you can be SURE we listen today.

Lesson 3: Momentum is a condiment … not a meal

With real estate, sustainable profit is all about the income.

Sure, it’s great when things get hot and people want to pay MORE for the SAME income.  But at some point, the numbers don’t make sense.

You can bad fundamentals and invest primarily because “it’s going up.” But when momentum fades, prices snap back to fundamentals.

If you’re on the wrong end of it, it’s painful.

Of course, if you see it coming, you can cash out via refinance or sale, and store up some dry powder for the soon-to-be-coming sale.

Lesson 4: Trends and indexes are interesting, but the deal’s what’s real

We have a big, diverse audience … so we talk about big picture stuff. It’s important to see the big picture.

After all, every asset you own is floating in a big sloshing economic sea.

If you’re not aware of weather patterns and watching the horizon, you might not see storm clouds and rough waters forming.

But investors make money in EVERY kind of economic environment, so it’s not the conditions which dictate YOUR success or failure.

It’s your attention to being sure each individual deal YOU do makes sense.

That means the right market, product type, neighborhood, financing structure, and management team.

Keep the deal real … and have plans for what you’d do in a variety of economic situations …

… so when conditions change you’re not caught unaware and unprepared.

“The time to repair the roof is when the sun is shining.”

– John F. Kennedy

Lesson 5: Train wrecks in stocks can be tee-up for real estate

This is our favorite.

It’s not that we take joy when the stock market reveals its true character … but we know it’s a wake-up-and-smell-the-coffee moment for many Main Street investors.

As our friends Chris Martenson and Adam Taggart recently pointed out

… if you take the FAANG stocks out of the stock indexes, the highly-touted stock index returns would have been NEGATIVE.

It’s hard to diversify when you you’re exposed to the hot stocks everyone’s piled into … directly or indirectly.

So as Main Street investors come to suspect the disproportionate influence just a few arguably overbought stocks have on their TOTAL net worth and retirement dreams …

… history says people’s hearts turn home to an investment type they instinctively understand and trust. Real estate.

So for those raising money from private investors to go do more and bigger real estate deals, a stock market scare can make it easier for your prospects to appreciate what you’re offering them.

Lesson 6: Do the math and the math will tell you what to do

Very few paper asset investors we’ve ever met actually do the math.

They either buy index funds based on trends and history, and don’t realize most are exposed to the same small group of hot stock everyone owns …

… or they buy stocks based on a hot tip, a gut feeling, or a recommendation from someone they think is smarter than they are.

But real estate math is SO simple to understand and explain.

And when you can quickly show a Main Street paper investor how a 15-20% annualized long-term return on investment real estate is quite realistic … with very moderate risk …

… real estate is the CLEAR winner.

Even a modest 3% per year price appreciation on 20% down payment (5:1 leverage) is 15% average annual growth rate.

Add to that another 2% or so a year in amortization … paying down the loan using the rental income … you’re up to about 17% annualized equity growth.

Toss in another modest 3-5% cash-on-cash and some tax benefits and you’re pushing 20% annualized total return pretty fast.

And that’s just bread-and-butter buy-and-hold rental property.

There are all kinds of specialty niches and value-add plays which allow active investors to goose returns …

… or for a syndicator to put a lot of meat on the bone for their passive investors … and still take a piece for doing the work.

Lesson 7: Monitor your portfolio for weak links and over-exposure

Lots of paper investors who didn’t even know they were exposed to Facebook are finding out the hard way …

… just like when we didn’t realize our whole investing and business model depended on healthy credit markets.

So be aware …

When you’re overly exposed to a critical factor like interest rates, credit markets, a tax law, a specific industry or employer, or even a currency or financial system

… you run the risk that a single unexpected event can take a BIG bite out of your assets.

And while you might not be able to fix everything right away, the sooner you’re aware of the risks, the sooner you can start preparing to mitigate them.

Until next time … good investing!


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